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milf
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: Religion and food restrictions.. |
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Does anyone know if Christianity restricts any particular kind of meat or food eg. dog, snake, eel, etc.? Is it clearly written in the Bible?
As far as I know, Islam restricts pork and Buddishm/Hinduism restricts beef. |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yes: shellfish is an abomination equal to the abomination of sleeping with another man.
Leviticus something or other ... |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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According to the Bible, pork is meant to be unclean, as well as shellfish, like Wangja said.
I didn't know this (but I am a Christian), until my SDA friend told me she neither eats pork nor shellfish.....
Let me do a search and get back to you. |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Here you go:
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http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/leviticus/leviticus11.htm
Leviticus, Chapter 11
1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron,
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"Speak to the Israelites and tell them: Of all land animals these are the ones
you may eat:
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any animal that has hoofs you may eat, provided it is cloven-footed and chews
the cud.
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But you shall not eat any of the following that only chew the cud or only have
hoofs: the camel, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is
therefore unclean for you;
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2 the rock badger, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is
therefore unclean for you;
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the hare, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is therefore
unclean for you; and the pig,
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which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud
and is therefore unclean for you.
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Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they
are unclean for you. |
Good job, Wangja, on knowing your Bible  |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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More on the subject:
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Please note that this was required by God of His people in the Old Testament.
He set up many laws to keep His people pure. As pigs were seen as animals that
ate garbage etc. God called them unclean. Pigs/pork was not an acceptable
sacrifice for the attonement for sins. However, in the New Testament, this law
was "lifted." Because of Jesus' death on the cross (and resurrection),
sacrifices were no longer needed as Jesus was the final sacrifice and faith in
Him was the only way man could be pure before God. It was no longer necessary
for God's people to leave by these strict rules. God declares this once
unclean food clean in the following passage in a dream to Peter.
Acts 11:4-10
"4Peter began and explained everything to them precisely as it had happened:
5"I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision. I saw
something like a large sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners,
and it came down to where I was. 6I looked into it and saw four-footed animals
of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles, and birds of the air. 7Then I heard a
voice telling me, 'Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.'
8"I replied, 'Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my
mouth.'
9"The voice spoke from heaven a second time, 'Do not call anything impure that
God has made clean.' 10This happened three times, and then it was all pulled up
to heaven again." |
Here's everything
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=34 |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Religion and food restrictions.. |
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| milf wrote: |
Does anyone know if Christianity restricts any particular kind of meat or food eg. dog, snake, eel, etc.? Is it clearly written in the Bible?
As far as I know, Islam restricts pork and Buddishm/Hinduism restricts beef. |
Some Christians are vegetarians because they believe God intended humans to eat fruits, herbs, etc., based on a passage in Genesis. (Sorry, don't know it off by heart.) They aren't mainstream Christians, though.
Some scholars believe Jesus was a vegetarian, but they aren't in the mainstream either and I don't think there's any reliable way of knowing what he ate (that is if he existed at all).
A fairly high proportion of Seventh Day Adventists are vegetarians, and I think it's is because they believe in treating their bodies like temples (based on some other Bible passage that I don't remember). However, other SDAs aren't veg and to the best of my knowledge they're not required to be.
I think there may be a few tiny Christian sects that still follow the Kosher laws set out in the Bible, but they're a real minority. The vast majority of Christians share Hank Scorpio's understanding of the "food chain." I wish I had a link to the image he lifted from The Simpsons to show us all how we should be eating ... |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| TZ, one of the God Squad will be along soon to say that "that bit doesn't apply!" |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: re: |
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I'm not one of the God Squad, but everything listed so far only applies to Orthodox Jews, or Christians who take the Old Testament laws as still relevant.
Peace |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I feel the same.
Trouble is those who don't but keep saying "that bit applies apply but this this bit doesn't". It always seems like cherry-picking to me. |
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seoulunitarian
Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: re: |
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| Wangja wrote: |
Yes, I feel the same.
Trouble is those who don't but keep saying "that bit applies apply but this this bit doesn't". It always seems like cherry-picking to me. |
Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I know the typical evangelical rationalization for such "cherry-picking" derives from the supposed sacrifice of Christ on the cross abolishing the OT law. However, Jesus himself said he did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. Here again, most evangelicals say Christ "fulfilled" the law by his death. From the outside, it seems like a convenient way to get rid of over 600 prohibitions. From the inside (having been there once), it is a genuine belief, and not a cop-out (at least not consciously).
Peace |
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milf
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Gosh... that means no more dog stew, or pork BBQ or tonkatsu or unagi or ... or ....  |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: re: |
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| seoulunitarian wrote: |
| Wangja wrote: |
Yes, I feel the same.
Trouble is those who don't but keep saying "that bit applies apply but this this bit doesn't". It always seems like cherry-picking to me. |
Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I know the typical evangelical rationalization for such "cherry-picking" derives from the supposed sacrifice of Christ on the cross abolishing the OT law. However, Jesus himself said he did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. Here again, most evangelicals say Christ "fulfilled" the law by his death. From the outside, it seems like a convenient way to get rid of over 600 prohibitions. From the inside (having been there once), it is a genuine belief, and not a cop-out (at least not consciously).
Peace |
Yep, agreed, we've sidetracked enough.
This and similar topics has been debated in the religious forum over at Koreabridge/Pusanweb. |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I'll have to stop my all-too-often consumption of rock badger.
I'm Catholic, and aside from not eating meat on Fridays during Lent (Canon law may have even changed regarding that, too- there was discussion of it when I was back in h.s.), there are no dietary restrictions~ |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Christ stated that He was here to fulfill the law-- that is, the sacrifice He was about to make would establish a new arrangement between God and man which would conform in basic concept but not in specifics to Old Testament ethics. This, one of the greatest acts in history, is about the polar opposite of cherry-picking.
Thus where in the OT we are to not eat pork or other so-and-so animals because such animals spoil quickly in a mediterranean climate (one medical theory), we are now simply to follow the abstract ethic-- eat responsibly. Thus there are no dietary prohibitions whatsoever other than the general idea of avoiding abusive eating practises such as gluttony.
But if it were up to me, I would add a proviso prohibiting Pizza Pops. Always loathed them and the commercials. There should be something in the New Testament forbidding non-alcoholic beer too. 
Ken:> |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Here's where God tells Adam what he's supposed to eat before The Flood:
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| Genesis 1:29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground�everything that has the breath of life in it�I give every green plant for food." And it was so. |
Here's what he adds afterwards:
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Genesis 9:1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. 2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. 3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. |
Some would argue that God indicates a preference toward vegetarianism here. I'm a veggie, but I wouldn't go so far as to demand that everyone else follow suit based on this passage. I have, however, used this passage to defend myself when my vegetarianism was attacked by some blinkered person who thought my choice in diet was suspect because Hindus are also vegetarian. Tricky logic, that. |
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