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Fresh Prince
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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 Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: To the Koreans or anyone: What mistakes do foreigners make? |
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Like the Korean students that say, "nice to meet you," after they say, "hi," I'm sure there are a lot of language and cultural mistakes that we foreigners make that could easily be corrected.
I've noticed that a lot of foreigners use the polite form of Korean verbs when they first meet people instead of the formal form which could be one mistake. Are there any glaring mistakes that foreigners make that really stand out to Korean people, Language or otherwise? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Speaking not as a Korean, the two biggest ones I see are
1) being too forward when trying to pick up a Korean girl
2) losing too many inhibitions when drunk |
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ruffie
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| Uhmmmm....being foreign? |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: yes |
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1. Koreans are taught to grin and bear it in hard situations. Foreigners generally don't. Some do, though. I don't.
2. Language: They pronounce the Korean verb 아 like a short 'a' English sound, which is incorrect. That's what I hear about PC Bongs. I wonder if they're smoking marijuana there.
3. Speaking of drugs, mentioning past or current use of drugs is not a good idea.
4. I agree with the last poster. Sometimes just being foreign. I see Koreans push Koreans all the time, and rarely does anyone scold another, or even say anything. When I do it, I get scolded a lot. I tend to tell them to sit down and shut their hole, tho. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| ruffie wrote: |
| Uhmmmm....being foreign? |
Spot on! |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
2. Language: They pronounce the Korean verb 아 like a short 'a' English sound, which is incorrect. That's what I hear about PC Bongs. I wonder if they're smoking marijuana there.
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That jogged my memory. Here are a few others:
hakwon -> hokwan
Yongsan -> Youngsun (they use this one on AFN all the time)
A friend of mine lived in Ogeum-dong, which he kept calling Ojoom-dong. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: Re: yes |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Ilsanman wrote: |
2. Language: They pronounce the Korean verb 아 like a short 'a' English sound, which is incorrect. That's what I hear about PC Bongs. I wonder if they're smoking marijuana there.
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That jogged my memory. Here are a few others:
hakwon -> hokwan
Yongsan -> Youngsun (they use this one on AFN all the time)
A friend of mine lived in Ogeum-dong, which he kept calling Ojoom-dong. |
Re the last one, the 으 vowel sound is a bitch to pronounce in a language that hinges on decent command of pronunciation. Took me forever to get it right, and it's something akin to the noise you make when being winded. |
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VirginIslander
Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| 의 사 의 의 즤 Doctor's Chair. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Speaking not as a Korean, the two biggest ones I see are
1) being too forward when trying to pick up a Korean girl
2) losing too many inhibitions when drunk |
As opposed to drunk Korean guys?
I'd say that applies to both Koreans and Westerners.
Korean guys hit on western chicks like they are "whores" (not always) and Western guys will hit on Korean chicks like they would back home (not always.... sometimes worse....)
Add alcohol and watch the madness....
I guess it's like ruffie said: being foreign.... |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: Re: yes |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| the 으 vowel sound is a *beep* to pronounce in a language that hinges on decent command of pronunciation. Took me forever to get it right, and it's something akin to the noise you make when being winded. |
It's easier if you know French, which has a sound that is similar. |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| VirginIslander wrote: |
| ? ? ? ? ? Doctor's Chair. |
You're last character isn't correct. You need to make a 'ja' sound. (I can't type in Korean on this computer). |
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| VirginIslander wrote: |
| 의 사 의 의 즤 Doctor's Chair. |
Now, that is just a nightmare..... all it needs is a ㄹ to complete the picture of being completely horrible.
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
1. Koreans are taught to grin and bear it in hard situations. Foreigners generally don't. Some do, though. I don't.
2. Language: They pronounce the Korean verb 아 like a short 'a' English sound, which is incorrect. That's what I hear about PC Bongs. I wonder if they're smoking marijuana there.
3. Speaking of drugs, mentioning past or current use of drugs is not a good idea.
4. I agree with the last poster. Sometimes just being foreign. I see Koreans push Koreans all the time, and rarely does anyone scold another, or even say anything. When I do it, I get scolded a lot. I tend to tell them to sit down and shut their hole, tho. |
but isnt that how it is pronounced, as in: annyonghaseyo, or namu, (nah mu) or manhwa, |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| jaganath69 wrote: |
| the 으 vowel sound is a *beep* to pronounce in a language that hinges on decent command of pronunciation. Took me forever to get it right, and it's something akin to the noise you make when being winded. |
It's easier if you know French, which has a sound that is similar. |
It's mostly funny because ojoom is Korean for peepee. I think confusing J for G is a worse mistake than oo for eu. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| jaganath69 wrote: |
| the 으 vowel sound is a *beep* to pronounce in a language that hinges on decent command of pronunciation. Took me forever to get it right, and it's something akin to the noise you make when being winded. |
It's easier if you know French, which has a sound that is similar. |
It's mostly funny because ojoom is Korean for peepee. I think confusing J for G is a worse mistake than oo for eu. |
the french "u" YF is talking about, as in "tu" was taught to me as such:
make the pursed-lip "long u" face. then say a long e. it will come out sounding somewhat like a really weird (by english standards) long u.
now i found the most success with 으 by trying to replicate that weird french "u" but saying it in the back of my mouth, sort of where you'd position your tongue for pronouncing l and r-ish sounds in korean.
으 i find easy. i've given up on trying to get a korean to understand me when i say "의". i can follow a cd, and mimic it as best i can, but my students always go "eeenh?" and then go "aaaahhh... no teacher, 의".
'tis maddening. |
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