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Why don't America take election day off?
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sojourner1



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Why don't America take election day off? Reply with quote

Many other countries including Korea take the day off. It's only right to allow people time to vote around their other responsibilities. Even Korea does it. I got election day off last December in a hagwon since we were closed! Election day in America should be made a national holiday.

American elite hasn't wanted to give it's people a fair chance at democracy, but just keep them weary, apathetic, and dumbed down to a state of miserable numbness.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/obamas-election-day-rekindle-debate-national-holiday/

"A study from the International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance shows that the United States ranks 139th out of 172 democratic countries when it comes to voter turnout over the past 60 years." This is because people are kept wearily busy so the process of democracy really doesn't take place. This thing we have called democracy is a sick diversion for plutocracy ran by the rich.

Since Obama called for a day off, he should sign an order to make election days national holiday that employers must allow off or pay 1.5 time and still give employees time to vote if they work a long day. I think the rich can afford to pay low paid employees, the majority, a paid day off for democracy and our quality of life. If they cared about the country, it's people, and overall quality of life, they'd share a little of the vast wealth existing in America.
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Seon-bee



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Election day in America should be made a national holiday.


Slackers don't need a whole day off to cast a ballot.

It's my right to not cast a ballot should I so choose. I don't think I really deserve a day off if I'm not voting.

And there are a host of other factors influencing voting patterns: age, socio-economics, literacy, type of governments, election procedures, issues on the agenda, etc.

Let's make it compulsary just like in Australia!

Here's an interesting read in The Atlantic. http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/98oct/electday.htm

A nice solution was provided at the end of the article.

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An alternative would be to declare Election Day a national holiday. This would probably be resisted on the basis of cost. A solution would be to move Election Day to the second Tuesday of November and combine it with Veterans' Day, traditionally celebrated on November 11. This would send a strong signal about the importance our country attaches to voting. And what better way could there be to honor those who fought for democratic rights than for Americans to vote on what could become known as Veterans' Democracy Day?
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tomwaits



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good thread.

Funny how the rich countries "can't afford" to do things like this.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the OP.

Our university gives Election Day off on election years, but they take away Columbus Day.

But, election day should stay on a Tuesday. If they give a Monday/Friday off for Americans, I'd be afraid they wouldn't vote. Stick that day off in the middle of the week.

What might be best is a half-day. Give Americans the afternoon off. That way they're already out and about, no?
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Ivor



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cuz there are better things to do Embarassed
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peppermint



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of all the problems with voting in US elections, I think people lacking the time to vote is one of the smaller ones. Why not focus on cutting lines at polling stations, and normalizing voter registration first?
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the 19th Century it was a day off. I don't know when it changed.

With our population as big as it is, we do need to do some niggling with the voting set-up.

More than half the states have extended voting periods, which was a good change, but reports are that people are still waiting up to 8 hours to vote. That's just crazy. That would drive away all but the most committed. I'm not sure even I would wait that long to vote.

We've also got to figure out a better way to do voter identification. Not everyone has a driver's license or passport.
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sjrm



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not really sure how many other countries have early voting though either. That's most likely the reason why. I mean if you have a month to cast your ballot, while they're actually open on weekends to do this, than they're never going to vote anyway.
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newton kabiddles



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Why don't America take election day off? Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
Election day in America should be made a national holiday.

I agree, the presidential election day should be a day off. I think we should move it to a Saturday.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
I agree with the OP.

Our university gives Election Day off on election years, but they take away Columbus Day.

But, election day should stay on a Tuesday. If they give a Monday/Friday off for Americans, I'd be afraid they wouldn't vote. Stick that day off in the middle of the week.

What might be best is a half-day. Give Americans the afternoon off. That way they're already out and about, no?

I agree with this one.
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tigercat



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should make bars close on election day too, like in Thailand.
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NoExplode



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: Why don't America take election day off? Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
Many other countries including Korea take the day off. It's only right to allow people time to vote around their other responsibilities. Even Korea does it. I got election day off last December in a hagwon since we were closed! Election day in America should be made a national holiday.

American elite hasn't wanted to give it's people a fair chance at democracy, but just keep them weary, apathetic, and dumbed down to a state of miserable numbness.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/obamas-election-day-rekindle-debate-national-holiday/

"A study from the International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance shows that the United States ranks 139th out of 172 democratic countries when it comes to voter turnout over the past 60 years." This is because people are kept wearily busy so the process of democracy really doesn't take place. This thing we have called democracy is a sick diversion for plutocracy ran by the rich.

Since Obama called for a day off, he should sign an order to make election days national holiday that employers must allow off or pay 1.5 time and still give employees time to vote if they work a long day. I think the rich can afford to pay low paid employees, the majority, a paid day off for democracy and our quality of life. If they cared about the country, it's people, and overall quality of life, they'd share a little of the vast wealth existing in America.


Cuz voting takes all of 40 seconds, and we're not bums like some, nor are we a fledgeling democracy like Korea where it's this new fangled thing to do.

Republicans are pushing for this though, as they argue a huge potion of the Domocrats' electorate are on the dole and have an easier time making time than people who work.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Why don't America take election day off? Reply with quote

NoExplode wrote:
Cuz voting takes all of 40 seconds, and we're not bums like some, nor are we a fledgeling democracy like Korea where it's this new fangled thing to do.

Republicans are pushing for this though, as they argue a huge potion of the Domocrats' electorate are on the dole and have an easier time making time than people who work.

Takes 40 seconds in the booth. Depends on where you live, but some places it can take hours of waiting in line, for example, in most urban cities in Ohio last election.
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Pooty



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So get up early and be one of the first in line Smile
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ernie



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm wondering about the opposite question. why the hell do koreans take an entire day off to vote? i mean, it takes an hour at the very most.

i understand that the reason is because the big companies refuse to let their employees out into the light of day. but this solution is like killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer. why not mandate (and enforce) compulsory time off to vote during the day? they could use korean ID numbers to prevent a huge rush of the polls after work. (i.e. #s 0 - 10000 @ 1 - 2pm, etc)
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