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holeinthesky
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Location: Sadang.
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: Ever had a lucid dream? |
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I have them quite frequently, although they were more common when I was a child.
I am fully aware that I am dreaming and can deliberately wake myself up. I look around my "dream", give a sort of chuckle and realise, "ah, here I am again" I can't quite manipulate the dream in order to change its direction, or make it more interesting....yet.
I think most people have varying degrees of ludic dreaming. Or there is simply a link to the outside world within your dream. For example, you dream you really need to go toilet, and dream about going, then wake up just-in-time. Or you hear the arjuma screeching outside your window and dream about her? This is more subliminal than ludic. Anyway...
The dream world fascinates me......
Ever had a ludic experience? |
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Destroyer

Joined: 11 Dec 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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If you are already able to wake youself up or look around it is only a short step to "true" lucid dreaming.
The way I did it was to keep a journal and write detailed descriptions of my dreams immediately following their occurance (precise memory of dreams fades quickly). Then start giving yourself dream suggestions: i.e. concentrate "I will dream of flying tonight" for a few minutes at a time throughout the day. Once you begin having the flying dreams repeatedly you should be able to separate yourself from the dream and look around and eventually take control.
Worked for me. It's a lot of work writing down your dreams all the time, so I do it much anymore. I now prefer the random idiocy of my dreams. |
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SirFink

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: |
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I've had a few though they usually don't last very long once I become lucid. A few seconds of "WOW!" and I'm awake. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:39 am Post subject: |
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I've had many lucid dreams, but quite by accident. They just happen.
One tip I've heard about how to trip a lucid dream would be to write something on your bathroom mirror, such as "you are dreaming". Then, in your dream, go to the bathroom and you will see the message. Then, start having fun!
The most bizarre lucid dreams I've had recently involved lots of Korean language. My Korean usage is fluent in my dreams. Haha! It could be just nonsense, or it could be stored vocabulary and grammar that my conscious brain won't let me access. Who knows.
A lucid dream thread isn't complete without mentioning Waking Life. Awesome film.
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Yeah...but I can't remember the details. |
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re:cursive
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Back when I was a bit younger and experimenting more than I do today I got into this a bit. I still experience them occasionally but generally it seems to be something that happens to me more than me choosing to have a lucid dream on a particular night.
Apparently one of the first steps is to be able to consciously control the normal transience of the dream world. In other words, to be able to sustain a particular scene. So, if in the dream you are walking down a street and happen to notice a street sign or whatever, attempt to look at it and not let it dissappear or change. Read it and observe it like an artist doing a still life drawing.
Another tip I picked up was to observe the back of your hand before you go to sleep and then try to lift your hand in front of your face while you are dreaming and observe it again. Get to know the dynamics of the space like you know the back of your hand. Sounds easy...but it is actually quite difficult. If you can do this with regular ease it can apparently serve as a useful grounding tool for when the dream starts to slip out of your conscious control...if things start slipping, look at your hand again.
I never stuck with it for long enough but had some friends who did who were able to tell me some interesting stories. One of my best friends and his girlfriend at the time devoted months to pushing it. They spent their days looking at a single point in the room and doing vocal resonance things. Apparently after a while they were able to meet in the dream world while they were geographically apart. They said that their dreams coincided ie. they met at the same place and did the same things.
Another older and quite experienced friend never lent me a particular book of more advanced techniques because he thought it was too dangerous (He never told me the title of the book either).
I actually had a rather vivid lucid dream last night in which I managed to get some control. Apparently I also did a bit of sleepwalking. I considered posting the details and may do later but at the moment it doesn't seem like this thread or for that matter, this forum, is the place to share such details.
There's a lot of information and knowledge about lucid dreaming out there and if you are interested I am sure you can track it down. |
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merlot

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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I started having lucid dreams when I was in the 8th grade. It was no accident that I started having them as I "willed myself" to. My theory was that we seem to dream about what we think about a lot; so I began to think a lot about what it would be like to be in a dream, and to know it.
Soon, it happened for the first time. In the dream I was walking around my Jr. High campus fully aware that I was in a dream...just kind of checking it out; it was cool. I climbed a ladder on the side of one of the buildings haphazardly knowing I couldn�t get hurt in a dream.
Finally, I had had enough and started trying to wake myself up. I was walking through the crowd at school hitting and pinching myself to no avail. Now, I was full-on frustrated and wanted to wake up. But no matter how much I pinched myself, etc, I couldn't.
I finally started asking people around me: "How do you wake up from these dreams?"
Someone said: "Aim toothpaste."
I ran into a bathroom and opened the cabinet--sure enough--a tube of Aim toothpaste.
I grabbed it, put a bit on my tongue, and instantly I woke up...for real.
That was the first one, many years ago
Now, when I'm really on my game, I inquire into things, do math, fly, solve problems, go totally cosmic�stuff like that, and other things as well that are too incredible to elaborate on here. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:18 am Post subject: |
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My brother is quite adept at teaching himself stuff, and one of them was lucid dreaming. His advice is to practice checking if you're dreaming during the day, so that it becomes a habit you'll do once you start dreaming. He also says to spin in place if you think you're about to wake up. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:52 am Post subject: |
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yeah, i was getting them back when i was reading a lot of Carlos Castaneda.
Just picked up 'The Art of Dreaming' to re-read again.. will report back if one occurs again..  |
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hermes.trismegistus

Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Yup. Dream majik can be some powerful stuff.
You might try Weor's Dream Yoga.
Namaste. |
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holeinthesky
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Location: Sadang.
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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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re:cursive wrote: |
Another older and quite experienced friend never lent me a particular book of more advanced techniques because he thought it was too dangerous (He never told me the title of the book either).
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HHmm. Sound like the Buddhist who told me to be careful with meditation. I've had a couple of strange OBE experiences and well, it is amazing what our own mind is capable of, and depending on how 'open-minded' you are, what can happen if we let down all the conscious barriers. Anyway,
some really interesting responses, I didn't know it was such a common phenomenon and my lucid dreams are obviosly only touching the very surface of lucidity.
perhaps I should put more effort in... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: |
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As one who very, VERY seldom remembers even one dream a month, I find people who want to talk about dreams in public to be very narcissistic. At least with a sex partner there were two of you there. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
As one who very, VERY seldom remembers even one dream a month, I find people who want to talk about dreams in public to be very narcissistic. At least with a sex partner there were two of you there. |
But opening a thread topic that you don't like, just to get on and judge the people who want to talk about the topic is cool, right?  |
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holeinthesky
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Location: Sadang.
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
As one who very, VERY seldom remembers even one dream a month, I find people who want to talk about dreams in public to be very narcissistic. At least with a sex partner there were two of you there. |
Who said we were all alone? Re:cursive wrote:
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One of my best friends and his girlfriend at the time devoted months to pushing it. They spent their days looking at a single point in the room and doing vocal resonance things. Apparently after a while they were able to meet in the dream world while they were geographically apart. They said that their dreams coincided ie. they met at the same place and did the same things. |
Anyway, perhaps your attitude stems from the fact that you don't remember your dreams. For some reason, I remember almost all, and dream most nights.... |
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hermes.trismegistus

Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
As one who very, VERY seldom remembers even one dream a month, I find people who want to talk about dreams in public to be very narcissistic. At least with a sex partner there were two of you there. |
What a classic example of projection.
An inability to recollect dreams stems from porely honed mental control.
Namaste. |
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