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inkoreafornow · Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Location: Gyeonggido

Follow the link and sign the petition if you'd like to make teaching in the EU legally easier.

http://www.petitiononline.com/1yrTEFLv/petition.html

Snowkr · Joined: 03 Jun 2005

hi
Great idea for starting petition but just curious.. what does this have to do with the Korean Job forum?

plattwaz · Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Location: <Write something dumb here>

Just curious, but why should teaching in the EU be made easier for Americans?

I mean, like any other nation-state or country or whatever I should call the EU, they should aim to fill jobs with their own citizens before they look to fill jobs with foreigners.

ttompatz · Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea

Richard Krainium · Joined: 12 Jan 2006

laogaiguk · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea

I have several French friends who all want to work in America. Guess what, it's not easy. Actually, it's pretty damn hard even for Canadians. If America reciprocates, fine, Americans can. But why should Europe let Americans if it is not reciprocated? Also, Europe has a bit of an employment problem. Why would they want to do this? There are more than enough people with dual passports already and they mosly want British English speakers anyways for teching English.

Juregen · Joined: 30 May 2006

Yes,

And actually at the moment if a company hires a non-european individual, they have to create a document telling why it was impossible to hire a european for the same job.

Trust me, that is one of the reasons we moved to Korea.

I don't see the need to Hire Americans, only a few are better educated and/or have better skils. There are few unique skills they can offer.

jaganath69 · Joined: 17 Jul 2003

I'm all for free mobility of labour, but as a national of an EU state I will only support it when...

A) It includes demands for all similarly qualified persons, regardless of nationality

B) The US reciprocates for EU nationals

C) Crass assumptions like this are removed from said petition

As American English is rapidly becoming the language of business worldwide, the demand for native speakers to teach American English is also on the rise.

inkoreafornow · Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Location: Gyeonggido

The petition will be sent to the US Senate's Foreign Relations Committee. In theory, if enough Americans sign the petition the committee will then try and negotiate with the EU. What would come of that? Don't know, but I would hope it would make it easier for citizens of both countries/trading blocks (what do you classify the EU as) to obtain work visas because we all know the EU will, rightfully, expect their generosity to be reciprocated.

The petition itself is incredibly crude:

"The visa holder should have at least a 2-year Associates of Arts Degree and must be TEFL or CELTA certified from an accredited institution, and at least 18 years of age. The visa will require an employment contract, and proof thereof."

I hope these requirements get a lot stricter so as not to drive down the wages of ELI's in the EU and lower the standard of education.

mindmetoo · Joined: 02 Feb 2004

mithridates · Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:42 am Post subject:

What a silly petition. Why would anyone need Americans or others to teach English in the EU?

safeblad · Joined: 17 Jul 2006

not in my name

RACETRAITOR · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea

What a retarded petition. If they're asking a favour, the least they could do is ask nicely.

Neil · Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Location: Tokyo

Endesu · Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: Bucheon

Sometimes I feel blessed that my country stays out of the EU.....

But seriously, do you actually think you would be swamped in job offers if this went through? Its not like Americans are THAT popular in Europe these days. Cant really see the French and Germans flocking to learn so called "American English". Nah, I command you for trying, and I would like an opening of the job market, but not just for English teachers. Thats pointless.