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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:34 am Post subject: Residing in Korea via biweekly excursions to Japan? |
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I really think that tomorrow I may give my notice to my manager. I have my own apartment but I don't have another job lined up yet. Honestly... I really don't care though... I couldn't deal with the manager's personality on a regular basis.
If her criticisims had/have any grounds in reality then I would not feel this way. It's possible that I am just so self-absorbed and arrogant that I can't see my own faults... oddly enough no one has ever told me such a thing... but I guess it may be possible.
Young Korean female manager plus corporate hagwon equals... well... very bad... let's just leave it at that.
So... yeah... how hard is it to get to Japan and then come back on a tourist visa? Pretty easy I suspect? Please someone give a quick reply so I don't step in it when I give my 30 days notice tomorrow. |
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Horangi Munshin

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Wow!!
How long have you been in this job? Didn't you quit a public school job recently? I don't know how immigration would see it. Can you get a letter of release? |
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alabamaman
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Residing in Korea via biweekly excursions to Japan? |
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| chaz47 wrote: |
I really think that tomorrow I may give my notice to my manager. I have my own apartment but I don't have another job lined up yet. Honestly... I really don't care though... I couldn't deal with the manager's personality on a regular basis.
If her criticisims had/have any grounds in reality then I would not feel this way. It's possible that I am just so self-absorbed and arrogant that I can't see my own faults... oddly enough no one has ever told me such a thing... but I guess it may be possible.
Young Korean female manager plus corporate hagwon equals... well... very bad... let's just leave it at that.
So... yeah... how hard is it to get to Japan and then come back on a tourist visa? Pretty easy I suspect? Please someone give a quick reply so I don't step in it when I give my 30 days notice tomorrow. |
Chaz,
Read http://www.efl-law.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=73 before you try to cancel your E2 Visa. |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: |
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I did just leave a public school job. I started my contract early to do a start-up hagwon a favor and now that things are in full swing I realize that this is not the place I want to spend a year.
I will give my 30 days notice per my contract and reimburse them for the expense of my visa run.
I am curious though, that after I leave the job... since I have my own apartment with a lot of key money setting on it... can I make a short trip to Japan to get a tourist visa while searching for jobs here and continue living in my apartment.
I wish they would just fire me. I will tell them I want to leave as soon as possible and don't mind any loss of wages, etc.
It's that bad... I don't know how this place is possible. The boondoggle and befuddlement only depletes me every time I walk through the doors.
Today I was penalized for going to the bank with a member of the Korean staff according to the manager's/director's wishes. Apparently it was too inconvenient for them to make deposits at a branch of the bank that I already have an account at. I had to spend half of my lunch/prep time creating a bank account for their convenience.
As a result I was penalized for not being able to sufficiently prepare one of my three lessons today. Wow. I told her all this.... her only response was that the student's families pay a lot of money for these lessons.
I felt like saying, "Listen... you idiot... I didn't need the f*cking account. You made me go and get it. Because of your... I teach 9 hours a day and grade papers at night, I plan lessons over breakfast... "
anyway...
Note to all: avoid start-up corporate hagwons...
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Should I try to get fired? She already threatened me... she said that she would give me one last chance...
wow...
hahaha...
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Horangi Munshin

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: |
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It sounds like a place I used to work at. Did what they asked then got bitched at for doing it. I stuck it out, mainly because I'd had bad luck with two hagwons before that. Incomplete contracts don't look too good on the resume.
That Efllaw site is good. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| Horangi Munshin wrote: |
| It sounds like a place I used to work at. Did what they asked then got *beep* at for doing it. I stuck it out, mainly because I'd had bad luck with two hagwons before that. Incomplete contracts don't look too good on the resume. |
It's not too hard to forget about some of them though.  |
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J.B. Clamence

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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If you give 30 days notice, then once your 30 days is up and the job is finished, you need to go to immigration with your letter of release (preferably with your boss, too) to terminate the visa before you leave the country. If you don't terminate the visa, you will not get another visa until this current visa runs out at the end of your year.
Once the visa is terminated you can stay in the country for 14 days. If that's enough time for you to find a new job, then you don't need to go to Japan to get a tourist visa. Just use the 14 days. However, after you find a new job, you will need to go to Japan (or any other country) to pick up your new visa for your next job. |
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georgiadawg
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: update |
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Just wondering how things have progressed... did you give notice? How did they take the news? It seems that more and more these days, YES Youngdo truly doesn't care how they treat their teachers. And, it appears that attitude is pervading more and more of their campuses. This boggles my mind because I've heard they are going through some recruiting strains recently (as they tried to cut back on vacation this year, curriculum problems / changes, reputation issues, etc).
Your experience quoted here is just the tip of the iceberg... "It's that bad... I don't know how this place is possible. The boondoggle and befuddlement only depletes me every time I walk through the doors.
Today I was penalized for going to the bank with a member of the Korean staff according to the manager's/director's wishes. Apparently it was too inconvenient for them to make deposits at a branch of the bank that I already have an account at. I had to spend half of my lunch/prep time creating a bank account for their convenience.
As a result I was penalized for not being able to sufficiently prepare one of my three lessons today. Wow. I told her all this.... her only response was that the student's families pay a lot of money for these lessons."
Frankly, can't wait to finish my time in this nightmare and get the heck out.
Anyways, I'm interested to hear if you are cuting it short or are going to try and stick it out... please give us an update. |
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Mashimaro

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: location, location
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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A new business combined with Korean organizational skills ( )
is a nightmare. With so much money freshly outlayed the bosses are
even more hyper sensitive to the odd parent complaint, fearing it could send there new baby crashing down. They change the rules every other day, put too much pressure on the foreign teacher, blah, blah.. been there done that unfortunately |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: Re: update |
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| georgiadawg wrote: |
Just wondering how things have progressed... did you give notice? How did they take the news? It seems that more and more these days, YES Youngdo truly doesn't care how they treat their teachers. And, it appears that attitude is pervading more and more of their campuses. This boggles my mind because I've heard they are going through some recruiting strains recently (as they tried to cut back on vacation this year, curriculum problems / changes, reputation issues, etc).
Your experience quoted here is just the tip of the iceberg... "It's that bad... I don't know how this place is possible. The boondoggle and befuddlement only depletes me every time I walk through the doors.
Today I was penalized for going to the bank with a member of the Korean staff according to the manager's/director's wishes. Apparently it was too inconvenient for them to make deposits at a branch of the bank that I already have an account at. I had to spend half of my lunch/prep time creating a bank account for their convenience.
As a result I was penalized for not being able to sufficiently prepare one of my three lessons today. Wow. I told her all this.... her only response was that the student's families pay a lot of money for these lessons."
Frankly, can't wait to finish my time in this nightmare and get the heck out.
Anyways, I'm interested to hear if you are cuting it short or are going to try and stick it out... please give us an update. |
I did put my notice in. On the surface the manager seemed a bit shocked but was polite about it. I simply told her that the level of preparation she expected wasn't physically possible for me during the intensive session. I didn't think that was too hard to understand.
She even agreed to let me go before the end of my 30 days. I did ask to be released ASAP.
They told me they would pay me overtime to begin my contract a week early. Then renigged on the offer claiming they said no such thing. I was able to reason with them by explaining the "chronic miscommunication in the office must be to blame. I wasn't starving, I was on vacation but thought the offer was good enough to come in early. I am not Korean and have no reason to do anything exceptional for the school before my contract starts."
Something to that effect...
Anyway they are still jacking me for a few hours. They claim my orientation was 22 hours long, but I looked at the schedule they provided me and it only accounts for 11.5.
Ha. I can't wait to go. I am seriously disappointed by the whole experience. |
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