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[Keepongoing]

does your school/university have the students see their final grades before after the students evalute you. Our students see their grades after we evaluate them.

Do you think it matters when they do them?

[Juregen]

[bluelake]

Ours have to fill out the evaluation (online) before they can see their grades.

[RobinH]

definitely eval before grades! Vindictive little $#*!, ahem, I mean sweet, well-meaning individuals.

[Keepongoing]

How important are your evals to the admin?

Does anyone teach for the eval?

I do know that on my highest eval for a class, I had superstar students who were extremely motivated and did excellent work. I have always gotten lower evals from students, who I feel, had shitty attitudes. I don't think itis that easy to commit the crime of "teaching for the eval" unles knew the students wells enough to know exactly what they wanted. On the same eval I have had students write that there was too much homework and another write that there was not enough. Or that class was to easy and loose and another write that class was to hard.

I have also had things like "The teacher looked at the clock" "The teacher looked out the window". Those are the moments when you really feel scrutinized.


Teaching for the eval means pleasing most of the students and who can please everyone?

Sometimes,I think it might be better never to look at the evals. I can not say that in the history of looking at them that there was anything constructive enough in them that contributed to my being a better teacher. I will teach the same class and get a 100 in one and 74 in the other. As a new teacher I considered the students opinions and took them to heart, but now I find it more of a distraction. I don't need an eval to know how a class is going.

I have been in this university for 3 years and have concluded that most often we are evaluated on a very superficial criteria made up in the students' minds.

it always humors teachers to see less than 7 in the area of "is the teacher on time for class?" Usually, if not always,the teacher is on time,but you only get the 7 from students if they really like you. Our evals go from 1-7

[SuperHero]

All three universities I've worked for the students evaluated teachers before recieving their grades. It is important that they evaluate before recieving grades so that they are as honest as possible. Additionally this prevents teachers from giving grades that will influence evaluations.

I know of one "teacher" who regularly talks to his students about teacher evaluations in order to get a better score. It appears to have worked for him as he had several semesters of evals in the 60% range and the semester he started discussing evals got over 90%. That of course is wrong and I personally would prefer that a "teacher" like that was fired, but it's not my decision.

as for some of the trivial comments, ignore them. I would only pay attention to comments that are valid criticism. Teacher talks to fast, teacher only talks to one student (pretty girls), teacher only uses the textbook, teacher is late etc...

the comment about the clock could be valid, but it might not as well, in the future just be more subtle about it. leave your watch on your desk next to your book/papers and when you need to check the time, glance while the students are busy.

[jacl]

Who cares about evaluations? Don't even look a them. Burn them in front of your class.

[alabamaman]

You sound positive today d***he*d!

[jacl]

But that is positive, peanuthead.

[alabamaman]

Kiss my *** b***h! That's positive

[Son Deureo!]

Would you two lovebirds get a room already?