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Did I do the right thing?
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:04 am    Post subject: Did I do the right thing? Reply with quote

Here's the story.

See, all of the classrooms in my elementary school are stocked with a series of books called "Why?" They are apparently a set of comic books about life, the universe, and everything. They're in Korean too.

Apparently, one of them is about puberty and the mysteries of life, because it has a series of drawings about the development of b.reasts. This one ten year old girl was reading it, and stumbled upon that drawing, and was scandalized. I think I remember her showing her circle of friends before she came to me. They were all equally scandalized. While I was helping another student, she said, "Teacher, look!" and flashed the page at me for like one second. I just said, "Oh, how beautiful!" because, well, what else are you going to say when confronted by b.reasts in an elementary school?

My student was completely mystified by my response. She immediately ran back to her circle of friends and told them in great detail about how the Teacher had said b.reasts were beautiful. All of the girls were very intrigued. "uhh? beautiful?" I heard like a million times.

I think I did a good thing, right? I mean, giving girls the idea that b.reasts are beautiful will make them happy and proud when they finally get their own, right? The last thing I want to do is fill them with shame and self-loathing...

[edited for *beep*s]


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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmm....or you just got a reputation as a pervert. The story could change in the telling. Rolling Eyes
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, you f-ed up. You are an educator, and you carry a tremendous responsibility. Think before you speak next time.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: elementary school girl flashed boobies at me! Reply with quote

mateomiguel wrote:
... of course they weren't hers, because she doesn't have any. But here's the story.

See, all of the classrooms in my elementary school are stocked with a series of books called "Why?" They are apparently a set of comic books about life, the universe, and everything. They're in Korean too.

Apparently, one of them is about puberty and the mysteries of life, because it has a series of drawings about the development of *beep*. This one ten year old girl was reading it, and stumbled upon that drawing, and was scandalized. I think I remember her showing her circle of friends before she came to me. They were all equally scandalized. While I was helping another student, she said, "Teacher, look!" and flashed the page at me for like one second. I just said, "Oh, how beautiful!" because, well, what else are you going to say when confronted by *beep* in an elementary school?

My student was completely mystified by my response. She immediately ran back to her circle of friends and told them in great detail about how the Teacher had said *beep* were beautiful. All of the girls were very intrigued. "uhh? beautiful?" I heard like a million times.

I think I did a good thing, right? I mean, giving girls the idea that *beep* are beautiful will make them happy and proud when they finally get their own, right? The last thing I want to do is fill them with shame and self-loathing...
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a Western view, which is mine, you did the right thing.

I just don't know what the kids will tell their parents or how they will take it.

I once had parents being somewhat angry at me because i played a "game".

What they did not tell their parents is what they were learning during this game ofcourse.

Just be carefull how you explain it and i would tell it to the person responsble for you, trying to explain the situation as clear and detailed as is possible.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
In a Western view, which is mine, you did the right thing.

I just don't know what the kids will tell their parents or how they will take it.

I once had parents being somewhat angry at me because i played a "game".

What they did not tell their parents is what they were learning during this game ofcourse.

Just be carefull how you explain it and i would tell it to the person responsble for you, trying to explain the situation as clear and detailed as is possible.


In your view, fine, whatever. I would have just waved it off with a hand wave and not gotten into it. Since I am Western, I guess your "In a Western view" theory doesn't quite work.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big deal.
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SeniorEnglish



Joined: 18 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next time just turn your face away and blush, then move on to the next topic. You definately don't want a reputation as a Byon-Tae
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:

In your view, fine, whatever. I would have just waved it off with a hand wave and not gotten into it. Since I am Western, I guess your "In a Western view" theory doesn't quite work.


I did not imply my view was absolute either, i just indicated that i as a westerner did not see anything wrong with the action in itself.

These kids were expecting a reaction, waiving it off might be as good/bad as saying they are beautifull.

It was a split second decision on an unexpected event, i would say he handled it very well.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
Dude, you f-ed up. You are an educator, and you carry a tremendous responsibility. Think before you speak next time.


Could you explain the devastating effect of and lack off responsibilty he displayed?

I see none.
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

while not the worst response it was far from the best. As one person sugested he should have brushed it aside and changed the subject.
people at the students will now think he is a pervert.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
laogaiguk wrote:

In your view, fine, whatever. I would have just waved it off with a hand wave and not gotten into it. Since I am Western, I guess your "In a Western view" theory doesn't quite work.


I did not imply my view was absolute either, i just indicated that i as a westerner did not see anything wrong with the action in itself.

These kids were expecting a reaction, waiving it off might be as good/bad as saying they are beautifull.

It was a split second decision on an unexpected event, i would say he handled it very well.


Waving it off means you haven't committed anything, they could see it any way they like, but there was no opinion you committed to. If they say anything, they can think the same thing as if they had said something, but they can't say that the teacher actually said anything. Sitting on the fence is the best (ie safest) here and a much better choice than the OP's.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say he was way out of bounds.

We're english teachers, not puberty counsellors. The OP's comment could easily be taken as inappropriate & come back to haunt him, & by association, the rest of us.

Foreign teachers have a special responsibility to be above board at all times.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You dropped the ball on this one.

As some have said, you should have waved it off. That comment was out of place in an elementary school and considering your position as an English teacher.

You are not teaching sex Ed now are you?

At any rate, it was a mistake and it just might blow over.

Also, the whole "as a westerner" thing does not fly in this case. As a teacher you have responsabilities, westerner or not.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry about it.

Pretty creepy subject title though.
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