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butter808fly



Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: Northern California, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:03 pm    Post subject: a quick rant about koreans bumping into me Reply with quote

Its amazing that whenever I get back into Korea, I want to leave it again. Last time it was being ripped off by a taxi driver and yelled at with some blah blah blah and 'meegook' and a thumbs down!

This time, its the whole bumping thing. I dont think Ill ever get over it. So, I just got off the plane from a 12 day vacation in Thailand (and nobodoy bumps in Bangkok!) and Ive been in Korea a whole 30 minutes.. waiting for my suitcase when... BUMP.. by some fat Korean woman.. I glare at her like what on earth was THAT for lady! Im working on 2 hours sleep here..... She just walks like no big deal then... BUMP about a minute later.. I look around, plenty of room to walk without bumping right into me! errrrrrrrrrrrr........ some guy with his trolly and bags.... i glare at him too but he sticks his nose up like hes all that and a bag of rice... and then another BUMP.. on the way back from the same man. I got bumped again but some young chick too. All in a span of like 10 minutes.

Now heres what I think:

A. They want me to yell at them.
B. They want me to punch them.
C. They are freakin THAT blind to public courtesy.

I can be socailly retarded sometimes and a bit passive, but any hints on what to say to someone the next time they do this would be great. I really hate it and I dont think its too much trouble to walk around me if there is plenty of room to do so. Its just the look in their faces like they have the RIGHT to do it?!? I really sometimes think its racist! (not all Koreans are racist, but some are just like some Americans are)

I know excuse me: shill-yea-hamnida... but should I say something like, hey buddy watch it!... or what? I cant just stand idle anymore. Its pissing me off.

Thanx Smile Other than that........ gosh I need to get out more. I only know one person irl from this board. Smile
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes

good

can anyone give the Korean equivalent for:

"Are you BLIND!'
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butter808fly



Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: Northern California, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol Laughing

Juregen wrote:
Yes

good

can anyone give the Korean equivalent for:

"Are you BLIND!'
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
Yes

good

can anyone give the Korean equivalent for:

"Are you BLIND!'


내가 방귀 뿌웅!

Naega Banggui Bboo-oong!
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to see it coming and drop the shoulder.

Why bother attempting to shout something back in Korean? they'd only laff at your pronunciation. Use english.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
You have to see it coming and drop the shoulder.

Why bother attempting to shout something back in Korean? they'd only laff at your pronunciation. Use english.



Junior does what should be done in this type of situation: Give it right back to 'em.

Right on, Junior.

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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: a quick rant about koreans bumping into me Reply with quote

butter808fly wrote:
Its amazing that whenever I get back into Korea, I want to leave it again. Last time it was being ripped off by a taxi driver and yelled at with some blah blah blah and 'meegook' and a thumbs down!

This time, its the whole bumping thing. I dont think Ill ever get over it. So, I just got off the plane from a 12 day vacation in Thailand (and nobodoy bumps in Bangkok!) and Ive been in Korea a whole 30 minutes.. waiting for my suitcase when... BUMP.. by some fat Korean woman.. I glare at her like what on earth was THAT for lady! Im working on 2 hours sleep here..... She just walks like no big deal then... BUMP about a minute later.. I look around, plenty of room to walk without bumping right into me! errrrrrrrrrrrr........ some guy with his trolly and bags.... i glare at him too but he sticks his nose up like hes all that and a bag of rice... and then another BUMP.. on the way back from the same man. I got bumped again but some young chick too. All in a span of like 10 minutes.

Now heres what I think:

A. They want me to yell at them.
B. They want me to punch them.
C. They are freakin THAT blind to public courtesy.


Option 'C', eh, is it, eh, Canadian. Sheer BIGOTRY!

I can be socailly retarded sometimes and a bit passive, but any hints on what to say to someone the next time they do this would be great. I really hate it and I dont think its too much trouble to walk around me if there is plenty of room to do so. Its just the look in their faces like they have the RIGHT to do it?!? I really sometimes think its racist! (not all Koreans are racist, but some are just like some Americans are)

My Fellow Instructor:

Racist Canuckleheads are everywhere in the Maritime Provinces. Heck, though, they are numerous in every Canadian area in which I lived from coast-to-coast for African uni budies of mine were attacked for the Crime of Being African in every Province in which I resided, Madam/Sir.

Come on, now, we are referring to a nation that desegregated its schools after the U.S.A. did so; We are typing lines about a nation that still has a hotel in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island (the Birthplace of Confederation due to the Charlottetown Conference) that is proud to sport the Gallow's Lounge where a thirteen year old black kid was hung right there for stealing a piece of bread in the 1930s. Honest to God, this place existed at least as late as Summer, 2000.

Perhaps P.E.I.Guy has better, more inside info about the construction clan from Morell, P.E.I. who threw me out of the hotel for complaining about Yankee bashing from the McDonald who manned the Front Desk back on the night before I was to enrol at the University of Toronto in late Summer of 1994.

Many years of my life were spent living in my matrilineal side of the fam's nation: B.C., Quebec, Ont., and EVERY OTHER PLACE I VISITED OR LIVED IN, eh, was hardcore racist. It is not only a caucasian problem in the States. Why can not many Canadians admit that Canada is not free from lots and lots of hardcore racist bigots?

I've yet to visit Yellowknife, Dawson, or any of the Aboriginal Centres way, way up North, eh. I'm sure, though, that forked-up Canuckleheads and racist Abos reside in those areas, too.

I know excuse me: shill-yea-hamnida... but should I say something like, hey buddy watch it!... or what? I cant just stand idle anymore. Its pissing me off.

Thanx :) Other than that........ gosh I need to get out more. I only know one person irl from this board. :)


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butter808fly



Joined: 09 May 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think Ill be shouldering any Korean ladies.. or men for bumping me.. though a good wrestle sound kinda fun Smile Im afraid Id be thrown in jail and hung or something. Mind my p's and q's (wahts that stand for anyways?).....

Hrmm....well..... maybe Ill try the 'excuse me' with the evil glare.
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best comment I had when bumped was when I was in line at Costco. I got bumped and crowded so I turned around, said "excuse me", made a back up motion with my hands, and then said, "stop touching my butt"
The woman behind me didn't get it, but the woman behind her did and started laughing.
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

butter808fly wrote:
Mind my p's and q's (wahts that stand for anyways?).....


I've heard 2 stories

#1 . it means remember your "pleases" and "thank yous". thn latter having the q sound

#2 in old England barkeepers would say something about watching your "pints and quarts" when things started to get hairy cuz bugs would start falling out of the ceiling as a result of the thugs bumping around.

(story #2 is a bit off, but you get the basic idea)
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butter808fly



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg thats funny..... Smile maybe ill get gutsy to use that sometime. great come back (touching butt)



riley wrote:
The best comment I had when bumped was when I was in line at Costco. I got bumped and crowded so I turned around, said "excuse me", made a back up motion with my hands, and then said, "stop touching my butt"
The woman behind me didn't get it, but the woman behind her did and started laughing.


as for bugs falling from the ceiling... seems kinda strange to me, and i frankly dont get it.. what do bugs and beer have to do with anything?

the please and thankQ's sounds about right. thanx.

OH, heres from the web from www.phrases.org.uk

Mind your p's and q's

Meaning

Be on your best behaviour and be careful of your language.

Origin

There are various proposed explanations of this. Amongst the most plausible are the notion that ale used to be ordered in either pints or quarts and you needed to be careful which you were given. The fact that typesetters needed to be careful when setting type because the 'p's and 'q's looked similar seems a better explanation. A third, from Melissa Shenker, is 'mind your pleases and thankyous'. This has the merit of being closer to the meaning of the phrase although the thankyous = thank 'q's stretches the imagination somewhat.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
butter808fly wrote:
Mind my p's and q's (wahts that stand for anyways?).....


I've heard 2 stories

#1 . it means remember your "pleases" and "thank yous". thn latter having the q sound

#2 in old England barkeepers would say something about watching your "pints and quarts" when things started to get hairy cuz bugs would start falling out of the ceiling as a result of the thugs bumping around.

(story #2 is a bit off, but you get the basic idea)


Sorry Newbie. You're way off.

It doesn't really mean remember 'please' and 'thank you'. It could in a way though. It actually means to just be careful about doing something. To do something correctly.

It originates from the printing industry. In the old days printers had to be very careful about the little 'p' and 'q blocks because they both looked the same when they were placing them into the printing tray thing to make up a page.

Yes. I'm a mine of boring facts.....

Edit. Just seen your edit!! Laughing

Actually, it was my old politics teachers who told me the origin of this phrase. He was a type-setter in a printers before he got into teaching so I was inclined to believe him.


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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its funny getting bumped into.

I think its really funny when I visit Canada (like next week) & people fall over themselves apologizing because they almost brushed against you.

Lighten up.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
I think its funny to get bumped into.



Really? I honestly don't think many people would have your reaction when bumped into. I can't see how it's funny.

I see the bumping thing as one of those social etiquette conventations taken for granted in the West but not in Korea. But it is very noticable and unpleasant. Not enough to go nuts about though. But I do understand the irritation.
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butter808fly



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, social etiquette.. and I feel quite jusitified in being irritated by it when 3 people bump into me in a 10 minute time span after being on their soil for a total of 30 minutes. Its totally ridiculous. I didnt mention the line cutting as Ive learned how to play that game.

You know, I bumped into someone on accident in Bangkok last night and he about had a heart attack, luckily his pal was there to cool him down. And this was a busy market filled with people from body to body!

I'll never quite understand it cuz I will never think like a Korean though I feel sometimes I can understand some of it. I worked with all Koreans for this past year. I swear, I think its territorial.... marking their area or something. Well whatever it is, I gotta live with it dont I.. especially if I want to survive this last month.... and especially if I even think about coming back for one more year.

Glad some ya understand... Ill totally remember the butt thing. Thats so great Smile

eamo wrote:
schwa wrote:
I think its funny to get bumped into.



Really? I honestly don't think many people would have your reaction when bumped into. I can't see how it's funny.

I see the bumping thing as one of those social etiquette conventations taken for granted in the West but not in Korea. But it is very noticable and unpleasant. Not enough to go nuts about though. But I do understand the irritation.
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