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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: hiding out
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: the province of alberta |
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hey everyone,
i think i'll be making the big move back to canada in the next 1- 1 1/2 years (after about 5 years here) with my korean husband. we have a lot of decisions to make.
people tell me alberta's the place to be for jobs now because of the oil fields. i'm from ontario and definitely don't want to head back there, so i was wondering if there's anyone here who ever lived in alberta. what's life in alberta like? which do you prefer, calgary or edmonton? i know there's a fairly large asian community. i was only there for a week, so i don't know much.
thanks in advance! |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer Edmonton over Calgary...more things to do, more festivals, better sports teams city is more picturesque. Huge asian community in Edmonton as well.
Calgary is closer to the mountains.
Tons of jobs available right now....if you have any trade, electrician, welder, Class 1 driver etc you can make a ton of money!(buddy of mine is working as an electrician and pulling in 75$ an hour, working 60 hours weeks, with overtime he is raking it in!) |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: hiding out
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, my cousins say the same thing about edmonton. but the quick access to the mountains is quite a selling point for calgary!
geez, i wish my husband knew a trade. instead, he's in international trade. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Edmonton has a lot more going for it culture-wise, but Calgary has a better public transport system, and it's only half an hour or so from Banff.
Edmonton's better if you're up for labour jobs. Calgary is a better place if you want a professional job. If you're just there to work and don't care about anything other than the money and the two of you, Fort MacMurray offers the best salaries for temporary/seasonal/etc work, but it's a hellhole. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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I dissagree with Grotto but agree with Racetraitor.
Calgary is white collar while Ed is blue.
As for Asian community, Calgary is quite diverse. I live there for 25 years and could give lots of examples of it. The Vietnamese and Chinese communities are well organized.
Oh, and Edmonton smells funny.
(seriously, the downtown there has some type of odd odour) |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
Oh, and Edmonton smells funny.
(seriously, the downtown there has some type of odd odour) |
That's the sickening stench of no people.
By the way, what did I say that was so different from Grotto?
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Location: Hwaseong City
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I prefer Calgary. I agree with you that the location is a huge selling point. You're definitely doing the right thing going to Alberta. If and when I go back to Canada, I'll move to Alberta. Previously, I lived most of my life in Ontario or Quebec. I have, however, been to both Calgary and Edmonton dozens of times on business. Alberta has lots of employment opportunities and no Provincial Sales Tax. Also, the personal income taxes are the lowest in the country. Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are all money pits. Between high taxes and a high cost of living, it's just too hard to save much money in those cities. |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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There was a segment on 20/20 that aired a couple of weeks ago profiling an oil field in Alberta. They need people so badly that they are flying people in every day from other locations. The people working at the field are making fat, fat cash. Seems like brutal work, though- being manual labor. If he's desperate for work, they can always use people at that oil field. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: hiding out
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:34 am Post subject: |
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i've been looking at alberta job sites and man, there are a lot of opportunities in the trades! if i could turn back the clocks i woulda went through to be an electrician or something! why was there so much stigma attached to the trades back in high school anyway? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: |
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sistersarah wrote: |
i've been looking at alberta job sites and man, there are a lot of opportunities in the trades! if i could turn back the clocks i woulda went through to be an electrician or something! why was there so much stigma attached to the trades back in high school anyway? |
Because trades were for stupid people. I bet they're laughing now, making massive salaries each year, while university graduates are paying off six-figure debts. |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Its funny. I have a buddy who is driving truck and pulling in 88,000$ a year on average. The electrician, well over 200,000$. Welders are pulling in about 100,000$
My teaching salary 54,000$  |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Doogie wrote: |
Personally, I prefer Calgary. I agree with you that the location is a huge selling point. You're definitely doing the right thing going to Alberta. If and when I go back to Canada, I'll move to Alberta. Previously, I lived most of my life in Ontario or Quebec. I have, however, been to both Calgary and Edmonton dozens of times on business. Alberta has lots of employment opportunities and no Provincial Sales Tax. Also, the personal income taxes are the lowest in the country. Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are all money pits. Between high taxes and a high cost of living, it's just too hard to save much money in those cities. |
The average house price in Calgary is 330,000. Fort Mac is higher.
Health Care is not free either. You must pay into Alberta Health Care, and it ain't cheap. It is our Provincial Sales Tax.
Calgary is the sunniest city in Canada. It's the high altitude I guess. But due to the proximity to the mountains, you get mountain weather. There is also a lack of trees, as they are pretty much all planted. Just leave the city and you'll see nothing but bald prairie.
The population is now over a million. It is a very expensive city to live in. My buddy is a boss in his department at an oil company, and he says he can't keep people, the job market is soo hot.
Personally, if you can make a good living in a smaller locale, take it. Calgary housing market is silly. It will crash when oil comes down.
I left less than 3 years ago, and everything was quite different. Oil was 40 bucks a barrel, average house was less than 200. When the big crash comes, it will be a buyers market.
As for Edmonton, better summers (no mountain wind) but brutal winters, so I hear.
If you like white collar feel, definitely take Calgary. If you like a university town, a govt town, and a blue collar town, and cheaper housing, take Edmonton.
Good luck! |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:10 am Post subject: |
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Grotto, the trades you mention only need a year or two training.
If you want money so much, go to a community college or technical institute and do it! .... yeah, i thought so... on second thought, you don't want that kind of job, so crack a smile eh and can the envy... lousy jobs in lousy locales tend to pay more... tons of service jobs in Vancouver, but they won't pay more than the rent.
I recall my father pointing at the son of a co-worker of his, a guy who re-trained to get money as a pipefitting welder, or some special trade like that, and the guy was raking in the cash on six-month distant crap condition jobs up north, driving a fancy sports car when he came down, real raking it in,... and my father said "you should get a job like that", as apparently my graduate degree program in philosophy was something less than doing nothing in his eyes,... then a few years later I heard the dutiful welder-son committed suicide. I didn't have the spite to throw it in my dad's face, as I was a journalist by that time, an editor even, respected in the community with a real job, no longer a "writer" or "university student" or whatever other label his blue-collar mind could rap around (my father was a trained engineer from Hungary whose papers and entire education and ability wasn't recognized in Canada, and so he became a mechanic and millwright, the sort of guy who could fix and manufacture anything, work with your hands and your brains he'd say.
If working with your hands and the trades appeals to you or gives you some intrinsic satisfaction, then do it. But money is in itself a motivator that evaporates fast.
I worked at a newspaper in Northern Alberta for three months before hightailing it back to the coast where I belonged, going from section editor to beat reporter, cutting my pay in half.
Alberta is also where I did my undergrad, and nowhere I'd like to live long term.
Remember: you only need ONE (or two) jobs, so the whole "there are plenty of jobs" here or there is beside the point to anyone but the most desperate. If you have enough time, do your research and make the contacts, and get a job in the part of the country you want to live in, especially if you're looking at settling down. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:18 am Post subject: |
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blaseblasphemener wrote: |
Calgary is the sunniest city in Canada |
statistically not true
Winnipeg often trots out figures to show they have the most days of sunshine IN THE WORLD for any city with populations over a quarter million.
Of course, a sunny day in winter in Winnipeg without any chinooks is FRIGGIN FREEZING, no... DEEP FREEZING!
I was once engaged to be married to a woman on the prairies but she wouldn't even consider ever moving to the West Coast, or to anywhere else than her hometown, so that, coupled with her devout religious family ties, spelled the end to an otherwise wonderful relationship and future together.
Move to Alberta if you want but, seriously, first consider looking for a career move to somewhere you want to live for a long time!!
Good luck whatever. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:26 am Post subject: |
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I think Lethbridge is the sunniest in Alberta, and Osoyoos in BC. Much smaller populations though. |
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