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slothrop



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: edit Reply with quote

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justagirl



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Cheonan/Portland

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard not, and I didn't when I went there.
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passport220



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Filipina girlfriend is shocked and dismayed when I leave tips.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no tips for food or most things.

but sometimes people 'demand' tips.. for example.. throwing your baggage on to buses, etc. 20 pesos is about maximum for that (thats about 400 won)..
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trevorcollins



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always left 10-20 pesos extra in restaurants, taxis, if a guy carried my bag up a few flights of stairs etc.
For most people there that's the equivilent to about an hour's pay.
For us it's the equivilent to about a minute's pay.
I'm surprised other people don't leave anything, I thought it was relatively widespread there these days.
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Doodly



Joined: 21 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tips are already included in the bill at some hotels and restaurants (check the bill and/or ask, don't confuse it with the new service tax that the government, not staff, collects). You can leave extra if you want. You should tip when you get good service. My husband is Filipino and we tip there. It's becoming the way of life. Tipping is so cheap that it won't break anyone's travel budget anyway. No one will be offended to receive a tip either. That's crazy talk. They know that you're a tourist and have the money so they'll appreciate it. I'm also surprised that people don't tip. What's fifty pesos to us? 1000 won. Less than a cup of coffee? The cost of living is lower there but a housemaid for example makes about 300 pesos (about 5600 won) in one month plus room and board, working 6.5 days/week, dawn to midnight. If they have an accident or have to go to the doctor then they're in trouble. The situation is really bad there. Have a heart.
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trevorcollins



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doodly wrote:
Tips are already included in the bill at some hotels and restaurants (check the bill and/or ask, don't confuse it with the new service tax that the government, not staff, collects). You can leave extra if you want. You should tip when you get good service. My husband is Filipino and we tip there. It's becoming the way of life. Tipping is so cheap that it won't break anyone's travel budget anyway. No one will be offended to receive a tip either. That's crazy talk. They know that you're a tourist and have the money so they'll appreciate it. I'm also surprised that people don't tip. What's fifty pesos to us? 1000 won. Less than a cup of coffee? The cost of living is lower there but a housemaid for example makes about 300 pesos (about 5600 won) in one month plus room and board, working 6.5 days/week, dawn to midnight. If they have an accident or have to go to the doctor then they're in trouble. The situation is really bad there. Have a heart.


Well worded. Like I wrote I thought tipping was more or less standard practice there these days.
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keninseoul



Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: tipping n wages Reply with quote

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housemaid for example makes about 300 pesos (about 5600 won) in one month


Mmmmmmmmmmmm the usual domestic (live-in) help salary ranges from P 1,500 to P 2,500 a month ( USD 30 to 50 ) while your average worker makes about P 5,000 to P 10,000.

Although tipping is not required, what the heck if you have the change.

Do check the bill - 'service charge' or similiar is not uncommon.

P 10 pesos / bag is fine for porter services.

Do have plenty of small bills/coins if you take a taxi - "no change" is a common ploy to scalp you. As well as 'fast' meters, taking the 'scenic' route, and fake route/charge sheets.

Some will 'demand' a tip for the slightest service - just give the cold stare, and walk away.
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Doodly



Joined: 21 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:25 am    Post subject: Re: tipping n wages Reply with quote

keninseoul wrote:
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housemaid for example makes about 300 pesos (about 5600 won) in one month


Mmmmmmmmmmmm the usual domestic (live-in) help salary ranges from P 1,500 to P 2,500 a month ( USD 30 to 50 ) while your average worker makes about P 5,000 to P 10,000.


Sorry, I should have researched the averages. If those figures are accurate then they're better than I thought but still terrible. I wouldn't be surprised if the real average is much lower than the reported. I only know that I recently stayed at the home of one of the top government officials (one of highest paid people in the Philippines). I thought he'd be paying the going rate. He has three maids/cooks/laundry women for him, his wife and their children. They all work hard and the hours are really long. He only pays them 300 pesos/month plus room and board. Of course, they all share one small bedroom. One of them needed to have a biopsy done that costs ten times her monthly salary. His bodyguards and drivers make more. We tipped them all except the bodyguards. Most tourists will only be tipping for the usual services. My advice is to tip as you would in the States or wherever you're from rather than as you would in Korea.

Edit: I was probably mistaken. Must have been 3000 pesos/month. Bad memory for numbers. Some teachers here complain when having to do unnecessary work or stay at schools from 9-5 even when they have nothing to teach or do. Being tied to a house would probably drive them batty! Anyway, that's all besides the point.


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keninseoul



Joined: 09 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: surely not Reply with quote

I am SURE he was kidding you, or there was a mis-connect somewhere.

I used to live there, and had house-staff. And know MANY people who also have house-staff. The salaries are lower in the province, but nowhere as low as P 300 a month.
While they are 'on duty' from dawn to dusk, most take naps or watch TV or such during the day so its NOT nearly as bad as you portray.
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inexhile



Joined: 18 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im in pI now, and the general rule is in manila, cebu, boracay a small tip is expected from taxis and service staff. This is not the case in the province and it is not the case if you are with philippinos. My pinoy friends don't tip, period.
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