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sweetsun



Joined: 25 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: classroom managment Reply with quote

hey there,
just wondering if anyone had tips for classroom managment....that would be 4 year olds....
thanks
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepper spray and duct tape? Wink

Rewards for good behaviour...focus on good behaviour and ignore/dont reward bad behaviour.

student going nuts....focus on student working...oh Min Su you are doing such a good job...if the other student catches on and starts working too give them praise as well.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: classroom managment Reply with quote

lindsey stillwell wrote:
...that would be 4 year olds....


Here's a book that might have some useful suggestions.

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Crowzone



Joined: 31 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the system that works best for the english teachers at our school is the X's and Star's system.

Everytime a Kid is bad, you give them an X.
Everytime they're exceptionally good, they get a Star.

The beauty of the system is, you don't REALLY have to reward stars, but you punish X's.

1 X is like the warning
2 X's you seperate the kid, put him in the corner, something like that
3 X's You deny him something they like to do, like Art maybe (if you do that at your school)
4 X's They get denied stuff for the whole week.
5 X's Send them to the scarriest Korean Teacher in the school for her to call their parents.


Honestly, once they're in the corner, it becomes very hard for them to get more X's AND, at least in my school, the children LOVE to tell me when someone deserves an X, in case I missed it or something (The country of tattletails imo) Anyhow, it works for us.

Sometimes, when they're good, I'll give little prizes out for multiple stars, a nice new pencil/eraser combo, some stickers, or maybe a candy or something if they get 3 stars in a day.
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: classroom managment Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Here's a book that might have some useful suggestions.


ROTFLMAO!

Hey - heres a few more 'practical' solutions:

1) It's really important that the kids actually know what you want from them so doing TPR (total physical response) is really useful. This basically means the kids practice obeying your commands. Line up, sit down, turn around, pencils down, make a circle etc... Try to make that a fun excercise rather than like a drill sergeant. Practice often and add more as you need.

2) Have an quick and effective attention getting device. Nothing more frustrating that constantly repeating "Look at me", "Oi! Pencils down, Hey Bill! Sit down!" Bill....!!

So something like this: When you clap your hands in a certain pattern and say "Look at me" the kids should immediately drop what they are doing, repeat the same clap pattern and shout "Look at the teacher" and point to you or something like that. Including a physical response that forces them to drop that pencil/toy and be quiet and look at you is best.

3) Be sure to be firm about the above two points. If you have some kid goofing off but the rest of them are doing it right, let that kid know you know that he's goofing off and make sure he/she does it right until you move on. If you're not firm about this, that kid's behaviour will act like a cancer and eventually spread through the class and sooner of later the whole lot of them will ignore you.

4) Keep your lesson objectives simple and have them in mind before you walk in. e.g. Today, by the end of the lesson they will be able to count to ten. Change the activity very often (every 10 mins) so they don't get bored and start mucking around.

5) Give them plenty of opportunity to practice and have lots of fun and humourous ways to do so. For example, if learning 6 animal names was your objective you might plan something like this:

-Listen and repeat (3 mins)
-Recognition: Students clap twice and shout the name of the animal if you state the correct animal and show the appropriate picture (5 minutes)
-More recognition: Animal bingo (5 minutes)
-More recognition: Snap game with cards (5 minutes)
-Speaking: Kids roll a die and match the number to an animal. First kids that says the right animal gets to roll next. (10 minutes)
-More speaking: Show pics and ask 'what is this animal?' Throw is some silly pics of mutuant animals (half lion half dog) to keep thinsg lively and their motivation up. (5 minutes)

Keeping it fun and interesting is really important. If it's really fun, they won't act the goat.

Loads of really great games and activitiy ideas here:
http://genkienglish.net/games.htm

Good luck with them!

PS: Just an after thought.. remember to keep in mind that they are 4 years old. Kids that young will be confused in a regular class let alone a foreign language class so you need to keep things really slow and don't rush.

Also, their knowledge of the world is still very basic so they might still be confused about what things are in their own language. Expect them to be learning at a deeper level too - not just at the English level.

Their attention span at that age is very short. More important to keep those activities short and interesting. Give them 'downtime' too, like time to colour and cut stuff. This can take ages as they still can't handle crayons and scissors very well.
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would spend several DAYS just getting sorted out with the basics: lining up; being quiet on teacher's command; sitting down/standing up, come here, raise your hand, and so on. Once the children understand what you are wanting from them, you can start to get some better responses. Any class I've had of 4 year olds always starts out chaotically, but if you stick to your routines, keep firm and offer a reward system for good behavior (stickers), they should transform from anarchists to students by the end of the year. Patience is the key.

I have some good kindy resources on my site link below - some bubbly songs especially will capture their attention.
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Crowzone



Joined: 31 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alot also depends upon if you're taking over a class that has an existing system, or if its a brand new fresh class.
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LateBloomer



Joined: 06 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to some advice on Dave's......I decided that from Day One 1, I wouldn't let my summer camp kids get away with anything. I'm a first time teacher in a public school and I've gotten a taste of how chaotic and noisy a classroom can be....from observing a teacher who has lousy classroom management. As well, it was my first time teaching alone.

So, the first day of summer camp with my Grade 3 classes (10 kids sitting with their desks in a semi-circle), I told them that the rule was "no talking while the teacher or anyone else is speaking". They were playing a lot of group speaking games and I allowed the odd "indiscretion" as long as they weren't too disruptive. However, three boys just kept talking to each other. After two warnings, I put two of them in separate corners--they looked very surprised. And at the end of the class, I gave the other kids a chocolate for good participation--nothing for the "offenders." The next day those boys decided not to sit next to each other so they wouldn't be tempted to talk. I was going to separate them but they beat me to it.

I don't know if it was not getting the chocolates or that the other kids seemed to be having fun and they were missing out while they were in the corner, but that was the one and only time they were a problem. One turned out to be one of my best students. He made incredible progress in just a week.

In the regular school classes, one of the teachers had a simple but effective method of getting the students to pay attention to her. When the noise level got too high during group work and she wanted the students' attention again, she would play an abbreviated form of a game similar to "Simon says". She'd get the kids to follow a few simple commands very quickly--for example, "Clap 5 times." "Clap twice". "Stand up", " Sit down" "Clap once". It worked amazingly well to refocus them and then they would be ready to open their books or pay attention to the next phase of the lesson.
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LateBloomer



Joined: 06 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, I got distracted and missed the fact that you are talking about 4-year olds. I think getting them to follow a few simple commands, as the teacher I mentioned did, would work to get their attention if they were getting too rowdy.
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Constantly point out and excessively praise the one student who is quiet and doing well. (They'll usually be at least one.)
Learn to use a softer voice. They'll pay attention more. And when you do yell, it has more of an effect.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back when I was teaching the little ones I used a lot of arts and crafts in class. Toned down the lesson to one or two words to learn and tried to associate these words with a color or shape.

I also played interactive activities with the little ones, singing and stuff.

I did that for two years and pretty much found out I am not meant to be teaching that level of kids....it takes a person who is wired to do this to be able to have fun with the little ones.
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