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Unreal
Joined: 01 Jul 2004
Location: Jeollabuk-do
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 Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:19 am Post subject: Designated English speaking countries |
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On the EPIK website, under requirements it says that prospective teachers must:
"Be a citizen of one of the designated six English speaking countries: Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, or the United States of America"
...now is this a requirement to get a visa or just a preference of the EPIK program? I am helping a high school which is looking for a teacher and the best qualified applicant so far has come from someone in a country other than these. The teacher will basically have an EPIK contract but is being hired directly by the school, not through EPIK.
Basically my question is this: is it possible to get an E-2 visa if you are not from one of these countries? |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Only people holding passports from one of the seven English speaking countries (UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zeland, Ireland and South Africa) can obtain an E-2 Visa to teach English.
Check out the Immigration web site for more details.
E-2 visa is for Language instruction. So a Chinese citizen can get an E-2 to teach Chinese. A French citizen can get an E-2 to teach French, etc.
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| prairieboy wrote: |
| Only people holding passports from one of the seven English speaking countries (UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zeland, Ireland and South Africa) can obtain an E-2 Visa to teach English. |
| unreal wrote: |
| I am helping a high school which is looking for a teacher and the best qualified applicant so far has come from someone in a country other than these. |
The law's an ass, as the saying goes. This particular law is harmful to the quality of English education in Korea, as I've mentioned in other threads.
It's no help to your applicant or your school, unreal, but they should complain about this if they can't hire the person they think best for the job. It sounds like they are looking seriously at qualifications, which is one step towards improving things. When places like this, that are requiring quality, start complaining that the law prevents them from hiring the best teachers, there's a chance that some progress might be made. Until then, time and money will be wasted on a regular basis. |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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If your applicant has an F class visa then you might be able to get around this restriction providing they have a degree from a university in one of the designated Engish speaking countries. (makes you wonder about parts of India, former British colonies, Hong Kong, etc.).
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dogshed
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:00 am Post subject: Belize? |
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| They probably don't know there are other English speaking countries. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: |
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What is really sad....the Philippines is not on the approved list...and they speak English! Go figure!
Not only that....they speak better English than 99% of the koreans who are teaching English! Not to mention speaking better than korean immigration folks also!
I have yet to meet a korean teaching English (except those who actually lived/worked/studied in an English speaking country who should be teaching! I don't know how many thousands of times I have been asked over the years by KT's...what is this....what does it mean...how do you say this....and on and on and on...
Even at the university level.....korean teachers are not doing any better!
Proof? Look at the test scores for actual speaking....poor scores.
Need more proof....I think anyone who is a native English speaker already knows this. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:38 am Post subject: Re: Belize? |
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| dogshed wrote: |
| They probably don't know there are other English speaking countries. |
It was only a few years ago that they discovered Ireland to be an English speaking country. Prior to 2000 it wasn't in approved the list either. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
What is really sad....the Philippines is not on the approved list...and they speak English! Go figure!
Not only that....they speak better English than 99% of the koreans who are teaching English! Not to mention speaking better than korean immigration folks also!
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I would like to disagree... Most filipinos who have NOT been to college CANNOT speak, read or write English above a 2nd grade level. Out in the provinces it is even worse.
The only places you find English speaking Pinoys are in the tourist centers, major shopping malls or post secondary institutes.
One of their biggest complaints is that they are losing out to places like India for the outsourced tele-center / call-center jobs because it is becoming too hard to find staff who have a high enough English level to do the job.
Maybe they should start teaching in English again instead of the local dialects. The change in the language of instruction away from English was one of the worst things that Corrie Acquino did for the country.
DepEd is only now realizing the problem and talking about changes to the system to reverse the trend away from English. |
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