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Here's why "they" hate us.

 
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R. S. Refugee



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Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Here's why "they" hate us. Reply with quote

Why Do They Hate Us?
by Jacob G. Hornberger, August 9, 2006

You�ll recall that immediately after the 9/11 attacks, U.S. officials declared that the attacks had been motivated by the terrorists� hatred for America�s �freedom and values.� That refrain produced the �war on terrorism� and, more recently, the �war on radical Islamo-fascism.�

Nonsense, said libertarians. The anger and hatred that Arabs and Muslims have for the United States is rooted in decades of U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Ending the U.S. government�s decades-old policy of empire and intervention would bring an end to the threat of terrorism (and radical Islamo-fascism) against the United States.

The argument of the �freedom and values� crowd boils down to this: �The decades of U.S. supplying of advanced weaponry and foreign aid to the Israeli government, which is now being used to kill people in Lebanon, and the U.S. government�s obeisance and submissiveness to the Israeli government, have had no adverse effect on how Arabs and Muslims feel about the United States. Their anger and hatred is caused by America�s freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and rock and roll.�

Therefore, the argument goes, the chants of �Death to Israel. Death to America� from hundreds of thousands of Shiites marching in Baghdad last week had nothing to do with U.S. foreign policy but were motivated instead by hatred for American principles and lifestyles.

(Reflect for a moment on the utter perversity of it all: U.S. soldiers in Iraq are dying to bring � freedom and democracy� to people who are screaming �Death to America� and whose radical Shiite government has aligned itself with Iran, which U.S. officials consider to be an arch-enemy of the United States.)

The same �freedom and values� argument was made with respect to more than a decade of brutal sanctions against Iraq, which contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children � deaths that U.S. officials maintained were �worth it.� People in the Middle East were indifferent to those deaths, the argument goes. Their anger and hatred were caused by the U.S. Bill of Rights and the gambling casinos in Las Vegas.

After 9/11, the greatest fear that U.S. officials had was that the American people would figure out that U.S. foreign policy was at the root of the terrorist attacks and thus demand a total reevaluation of U.S. foreign policy. That might well have meant an end to all foreign aid to the Middle East and a withdrawal of U.S. forces from the region. That could have obviously meant a significant diminution of the U.S. government�s overseas empire and the military-industrial complex, along with the enormously high taxes needed to pay for it all. Thus, it�s not surprising that U.S. officials immediately went on the propaganda attack after 9/11 in order to divert people�s attention from U.S. foreign policy and toward the �freedom-and-values� motivation for the 9/11 attacks.

If there is another major terrorist attack on American soil, you can rest assured that the immediate response of U.S. officials will be: It has nothing to do with the U.S. government�s unconditional U.S. taxpayer-provided support of the Israeli government, or with the brutal sanctions that contributed to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children, or with the callous position that such deaths were worth it, or with the invasion and occupation of Iraq, which have killed and maimed tens of thousands of Iraqi people. They�ll say instead that it�s all about anger and hatred for America�s �freedom and values.� And the sad part is that there will still be Americans who fall for it.

What would be wrong with terminating foreign aid not only to Israel but also to every other country in the world and abolishing the taxes that support such aid, leaving the American people free to keep their own money and decide what to do with it?

What would be wrong with letting Americans support Israel or Lebanon or the Palestinians or any other cause in the world with their moral support and their own money and leaving the U.S. government and U.S. taxpayer money out of it?

What would be wrong with ending the U.S. government's role as world policeman, intervenor, meddler, and interloper, not only in the Middle East but also in the rest of the world?

With the situation in the Middle East degenerating into ever-increasing violence, conflict, death, suffering, and destruction after decades of U.S. intervention, what better time for the American people to reevaluate U.S. foreign policy, not only in the Middle East but also in the rest of the world?

Mr. Hornberger is founder and president of The Future of Freedom Foundation, which is sponsoring a conference next June in Reston, Virginia, entitled "Restoring the Republic: Foreign Policy and Civil Liberties."


http://www.fff.org/comment/com0608c.asp
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Mitch Comestein



Joined: 13 Jun 2006
Location: South

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing! An article posted with no original thought? From RSR? No.... You're joking! It can't be true!

You're telling me that he scours the internet looking for articles that smear the U.S., and then he posts them as is to say, "Hey look. Someone wrote this, and I think this, so I should post this and be proud that I know how to work Google."

I don't believe you! Rolling Eyes
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how illuminating. Haven't heard that line of argument before, totally new to me.

IOW, what Mitch said.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hard to believe that's not recycled, but the date says Aug 09. Confused
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During the 1990's 70,000 trained in Al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan this was while the US was protecting MUSLIMS kurds from Saddam and MUSLIMS in Bonsnia from Slobidan. This was also while the US was trying to bring the Israeli and the Palestinian side together.

What was the problem then?

The truth Al Qaeda fights for the Caliphate from Spain to Indonesia and then move on from there.

They want the US out of the mideast so Al Qaeda can take over. But not only there .They want Spain back . they demand South Asia and South East Asia. They want Timor back. Say the US will be broken up into states , while they also demand that Oil is 144 dollars a barrel and that the west owes 600 TRILLION is compensation for all the crimes from the crusades onwards.

Furthermore Bin Laden blames the US for many things that the US has nothing whatsoever to do with.

For instance:

He blames the US for supporting the Russia in Chechnya - False.

He blames the US for supporting China's oppression of muslim Ugyhurs- This is false.


He blames the US for supporting India against Pakistan in the Khashmir-

False.

He blames the US for low oil prices. Low oil prices?

By the way ever notice that the mideast street never got angry when Saddam gassed the Kurds, or when Haffaz Assad destroyed the city of Hama or when Khomeni killed 30,000 muslims in his purge in 1988 or when Bin Laden killed muslims - what reglion were the northern alliance?

Got an answer for that?

Robert Fisk is left wing and I am no fan of his but he is correct here


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As usual in the Arab world, everyone knew what was happening and no one said a thing. The British and American pilots flying the pointless southern "no-fly" zone � allegedly to protect Iraq's minorities � could clearly see the receding waters of the Marsh. The Arab regimes remained silent. Neither Mubarak nor Arafat nor Assad nor Fahd uttered the mildest word of criticism, any more than they did when the Kurds were gassed.


http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0519-02.htm

Such is the way things are in the middle east.


Here's why "they" hate us.


The real reason for terror is that mideast regimes and elties teach hate and incite violence for their political and social objectives.

Mideast reigmes have great security services and if tomorrow they decided to get rid of Al Qaeda then within a short time there would be no Al Qaeda anymore.

Mideast regimes are police states almost like North Korea if they want something to stop within their own country then they put an end to it in short time.


As I have said many times the antiwar movement doesn't understand why Al Qaida fights - perhaps it is intentional.
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