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twg
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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: Hey, gym bunnies... |
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There's something I've been told that I can't get a good answer to when I ask "why". Though that may be because the EDIT: Guys who work at the gym and are in a lot better shape than me, therefore I assume they know what they're doing when they tell me how to use the machines can't speak English very well...
I was told that one shouldn't lift weights every day because it's bad for the muscles or something.
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One should do cardio daily, like bike riding or jogging because it's better that way.
BUT!
Why is it okay to exercise your legs daily and your muscles will be fine, but it's not good for your biceps to do the same?
This is my biggest mystery that I want to get to the bottom of today.
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huck
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And if it's not okay to work out the same muscles everyday, what about construction workers and lumberjacks?
They get huge using the same muscles everyday for long periods of time. |
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Poemer
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| I think it's because when you do physical labor (running, swinging an axe, etc.) you are not actually isolating individual muscles in an artificial way as is the case with weightlifting. |
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pest2
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Poemer wrote: |
| I think it's because when you do physical labor (running, swinging an axe, etc.) you are not actually isolating individual muscles in an artificial way as is the case with weightlifting. |
thats pretty much it. Exercise machines and free-weight exercises are meant to work a specific muscle group in a specific way. The idea is to OVERWORK that muscle so it can rebuild stronger. Construction workers and others who use thier muscles the same way everyday have reached a status quo of work/rebuild that thier muscles are capable of recovering from each day. Weight exercises are designed to EXCEED the status quo and bring the overall level of strength up.
As for the cardio/weight question...
Well, actually, I dont think you need to do cardio every day. You can do that, too, every other day. Same reasoning; at first you want to overwork the system and let it recover stronger. Later, like when you become an elite triathlete or bike racer or runner, you can work cardio consecutive days as a way to further the effect of overworking. (but even then there is a rest period for rebuilding) In the beginning, I'd recommend doing it every other day.
The way that cardio overworks the muscle is different from how weight resistance overworkds muscle. The former, in addition to strengthening the heart, building red blood cells and vascularity, and affecting the body in other ways besides just the muscles being exercised, strengthens the part of the muscles that use oxygen to function. The "mitochondria" in the muscles are strengthened and rebuilt this way... weight resistance-- ie doing free weights or nautilus-type machines -- strengthens the muscles for anaerobic power/bulk/size.
There is a degree of overlap between aerobic/anaerobic workouts -- especially at first -- so generally the best thing is to do the most intense workout first (that would be anaerobic) and the least intensive last (that would be aerobic). But actually, you should be able to do anaerobic on day 1 and aerobic on day 2 because there should be enough time for recovery between days 1 and 2...
Hope that helps. |
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Zyzyfer
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Hey, gym bunnies... |
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| twg wrote: |
| Why is it okay to exercise your legs daily and your muscles will be fine, but it's not good for your biceps to do the same? |
Jogging doesn't really exercise your legs the same way that doing something like, say, squats would do.
I'm no gym nerd (though I did just start hitting the gym again), but I would say that jogging is more like a toning exercise, and will give the muscles definition but will not turn you into Arnold.
Exercising like that, where your muscles don't really get sore at the end of the workout, can be done more regularly. If it hurts, you have to let the muscles recover.
The stomach muscles are another exception; they can be exercised regularly. |
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twg
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| pest2 wrote: |
| Hope that helps. |
Sure does!
Case: Closed.
| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| The stomach muscles are another exception; they can be exercised regularly. |
Yeah, I need to start doing that. I've been afraid of the, "I just puked" feeling I get when I try crunches so I haven't doing them like the EDIT: Guys who work at the gym and are in a lot better shape than me, therefore I assume they know what they're doing when they tell me how to use the machines told me to.
Which means my six pack will remain in the bag.
Case: Closed.
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JAWINSEOUL
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It look like your question has been answered. I will just add two things I've learned over the years.
#1 When running warm down after slowly. If you just stop running your body will panic due to the sudden change and store fat as a defence mechanism.
#2 Learn proper breathing to sure for yuor workout it makes a huge difference. |
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Wrench
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Hey, gym bunnies... |
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| twg wrote: |
There's something I've been told that I can't get a good answer to when I ask "why". Though that may be because the gym instructors can't speak English very well...
I was told that one shouldn't lift weights every day because it's bad for the muscles or something.
BUT!
One should do cardio daily, like bike riding or jogging because it's better that way.
BUT!
Why is it okay to exercise your legs daily and your muscles will be fine, but it's not good for your biceps to do the same?
This is my biggest mystery that I want to get to the bottom of today. |
Sorry but this sounds like a load of horseshiet. Korean personal trainers.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HST is just fine. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Hey, gym bunnies... |
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| Wrench wrote: |
| twg wrote: |
There's something I've been told that I can't get a good answer to when I ask "why". Though that may be because the gym instructors can't speak English very well...
I was told that one shouldn't lift weights every day because it's bad for the muscles or something.
BUT!
One should do cardio daily, like bike riding or jogging because it's better that way.
BUT!
Why is it okay to exercise your legs daily and your muscles will be fine, but it's not good for your biceps to do the same?
This is my biggest mystery that I want to get to the bottom of today. |
Sorry but this sounds like a load of horseshiet. Korean personal trainers.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HST is just fine. |
I've been looking and looking, and I'm still not seeing anything about personal trainers in there.
I did see the word "instructors". Is that where your confusion arose? Would have preferred "Guys who work at the gym and are in a lot better shape than me, therefore I assume they know what they're doing when they tell me how to use the machines"? I'll go edit it just for you.
There, done.
It doesn't have the same zazz... you must agree. But I'd hate to leave you confused like this. You may get up from your computer and walk into a door or something.
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thebomb
Joined: 13 Nov 2006
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Can you explain exactly what you mean by warming down after a run, specfic stretches and movements that would aid.
Thanks in advance. |
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Poemer
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| Just walking is usually enough for me after a run, but the same stretches and routine you go through before running can be done afterwards as well. The main point is that you don't want to run yourself hard and then just stop cold; drop down to a lower level of intensity for a bit before you hit the couch again. |
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