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patchy



Joined: 26 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:58 pm    Post subject: Private teaching Reply with quote

What is the maximum allowable tuition for (legal) private teaching? I read somewhere it's as low as 10,000 won per hour.


BTW, does anyone have the link to the news article about institutions in Gangnam and other areas writing essays for the children of rich people and charging an arm and a leg? It seems people are really desperate to send their kids to universities in the US.[/u]
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not qualified to answer your question... and I'm not sure I understand it either. Aren't 'tuition' and 'private teaching' kind of oxymoronic terms? Why would there be a maximum you could charge... and isn't private teaching illegal if you're in Korea on an E-2?
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patchy



Joined: 26 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meant "tuition fee". I think tuition means teaching so I don't think it's oxymoronic. This article was about private institutions headed by Koreans and with Korean teachers.
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guangho



Joined: 19 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are asking what is the max that hakwons (private institutes) can charge parents per student, right? I mean privates (as in private lessons by individuals) are illegal and very, very bad and nobody should ever do it. Which is why I can not understand why every Korean asks me to. Isn't the law SACRED?
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patchy



Joined: 26 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I repeat this is a question about LEGAL private teaching - it's legal when it's done by KOREANS. The article was about an institution that did privates for SAT but apparently the maximum they can charge is something like 10,000 won per hour per one-on-one student, or something like that, it seems very low, I want to check the article again to make sure I read it correctly.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as soon as you say "private" on this board (or most other places) alarms are going to go off. The term private generally refers to individual teaching that is off the books (and thus, private). While 1 on 1 classes might be slightly more of what you are talking about.

1:1 classes exist in some schools. And, while the government has tried to put limits on tution fees (all accross the board, not just for 1:1) most school ignore it / find a way around it.

I don't have the link you're looking for (sorry),but I have a question for you; Do you teach in Korea?

the reason I ask is, your post seems to use terms and ideas that are not really truthful in the korean industry.

patchy wrote:
I repeat this is a question about LEGAL private teaching - it's legal when it's done by KOREANS.

While this seems true, it is actually quite misleading. Koreans cannot just going around teaching privates whenever/whereever they want. They "should" get permission for said activity from the local Education office and they "should" declare all income.

That being said, again i state that it doesn't seem like you are asking about "privates"
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patchy



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I don't teach privates, I am simply curious about this situation. Of course private teaching is legal here, it's only foreigners who can't do it. That is why I mentioned legal established (Korean) institutions in my first post, and Korean teachers in my second. Private teaching is the teaching that is done in homes, and doesn't have to be one on one. It's absolutely legal if done by Koreans and that's why there are regulations in existence about it, re how much can be charged ... if anybody has the article, please provide the link.
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Snowkr



Joined: 03 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:16 am    Post subject: I'm doing it too? Reply with quote

Hi all

My boss just handed a private student over to me. I am fine with it but I'm a bit confused about what's being said on this thread. I know it's illegal to teach privately but if done through the hogwan and instigated by the owner with fair OT compensation, it must be legal, yes?

Basically I'll be making 30,000 (30$US) for one extra hour of "work" each week doing "one on one". I'd personally love to do more of this type of thing...
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patchy wrote:
No, I don't teach privates, I am simply curious about this situation. .. Private teaching is the teaching that is done in homes, and doesn't have to be one on one. .


No, on this board and with many foriegners/ESL teachers, that is not the definition. Although it is the most common; corporate classes, teaching in coffee shops, part-time work and classes in a home are often reffered to as privates.

These are not "legal" simply because someone is Korean.

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Of course private teaching is legal here, it's only foreigners who can't do it.


Wrong again. There are ways that foreigners can teach legally in many of the above circumstances. Being an F2 holder, I know.



Snowkr- as for your situation, if you are doing 1:1 classes in your hogwon and your boss is paying you OT, then you are clear. If you are heading off premisis (without the new address being added to your visa) then it is illegal, reguardless of your bosses permission.
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pauly



Joined: 24 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:

patchy wrote:
I repeat this is a question about LEGAL private teaching - it's legal when it's done by KOREANS.

While this seems true, it is actually quite misleading. Koreans cannot just going around teaching privates whenever/whereever they want. They "should" get permission for said activity from the local Education office and they "should" declare all income.

That being said, again i state that it doesn't seem like you are asking about "privates"


So, if I were to declare my income from private tutoring, is it legal to do so with an F4 visa?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pauly wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:

patchy wrote:
I repeat this is a question about LEGAL private teaching - it's legal when it's done by KOREANS.

While this seems true, it is actually quite misleading. Koreans cannot just going around teaching privates whenever/whereever they want. They "should" get permission for said activity from the local Education office and they "should" declare all income.

That being said, again i state that it doesn't seem like you are asking about "privates"


So, if I were to declare my income from private tutoring, is it legal to do so with an F4 visa?


From what I understand with the F4, you would be considered the same as a Korean citizen. For tutoring purposes I believe you must a) get permission from the local edu office b) then declare said income.
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pauly



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens if I don't ask permission from the local education office, and is that the same as the Board of Education?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pauly wrote:
What happens if I don't ask permission from the local education office, and is that the same as the Board of Education?


i honestly don't know the penalties, phone them and ask them.
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SuperFly



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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