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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: How To Spot A Terrorist Reply with quote

How To Spot A "Terrorist"

I really had no idea how to spot a terrorist until I studied the manuals published by the Phoenix FBI,
the state employees of Virginia, and the Texas Department of Public Safety. Now that I have absorbed these manuals, I not only know how to spot a terrorist, but I have discovered that I probably am a terrorist.

The Phoenix FBI manual was published while Clinton was still president.

The Joint Terrorism Task Force was formed to "help preserve the American way of life."

Its flyer requested that citizens contact the task force if they saw any of the following:


- Defenders of the U.S. Constitution against federal government and the UN
- Groups of individuals engaging in para-military training
- Those who make numerous references to the U.S. Constitution
- Those who attempt to police the police
- Lone individuals
- Rebels

The Phoenix Sheriff's Office did not care for the flyer, and it had a short life.

On to Virginia ...This manual tells us to beware of the following people:

- Members of anti-government and militia movements
- Property rights activists
- Members of racist, separatist, and "hate" groups
- Environmental and animal rights activists
- Religious extremists
- Members of street gangs

According to the authorities in Virginia, terrorists stand out in the crowd because of the stuff they carry:

- Sketch pads or notebooks
- Maps or charts
- Still or video cameras
- Hand-held tape recorders
- SCUBA equipment
- disguises


And finally, there's Texas, whose manual shares with us some characteristics of terrorists:

- Focused and committed
- Team-oriented and disciplined
- Familiar with their physical environments

Employ a variety of vehicles and communicate by cell phone, email, or text messaging

- Try not to draw attention to themselves
- Look like students, tourists, or businesspersons
- Travel in a mixed group of men, women, and children
- Avoid confrontations with law enforcement
- Use disguises or undergo cosmetic surgery

Well, there you are. Could someone pick you out of the crowd as a terrorist? As an emailing, camera-toting, focused and committed animal rights activist who sometimes looks like a businesswoman, frequently references the Constitution, and still has some leftover costumes from my years in New Orleans, I'm as good as gone.

Posted by Diane E. Dees on 04/27/06 at 07:57 PM

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2006/04/how_to_spot_a_t_1.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Joint Terrorism Task Force was formed to "help preserve the American way of life." Its flyer requested that citizens contact the task force
if they saw any of the following:

- Defenders of the U.S. Constitution against federal government and the UN


I somehow doubt that a US government document referred to enemies of the US government as "defenders of the Constitution".

Quote:
Those who make numerous references to the U.S. Constitution


More likely the book said something like "Those who make numerous references to the US Consitution's supposedly enshrining their right to have 15 wives and own rocket launchers."

Quote:
Rebels


"All citizens are advised to be on the lookout for rebels. Please report any rebels you see to the FBI."

Again, I doubt that the document said anything resembling that.

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And finally, there's Texas, whose manual shares with us some characteristics of terrorists:

- Focused and committed
- Team-oriented and disciplined
- Familiar with their physical environments


So then we can assume that the American government is openly suggesting that a good citizen is unfocused, apathetic, alienated, undiscilplined, and completely clueless as to their surroundings. Okay, whatever.

Seriously. I think the writer of this article has taken some pretty huge liberties with her paraphrasing. Plus, the document seems like it was written for use in the mid-90s, when right-wing militias were the threat du jour among soccer moms looking for something to worry about.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me, it looks more like he's taking the piss out of the Mother Jone's trashy tabloid reporting (which is pretty rotten writing if you ask me.)


I'm sure Texas Pete would agree.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:

- Defenders of the U.S. Constitution against federal government and the UN

I somehow doubt that a US government document referred to enemies of the US government as
"defenders of the Constitution".

Quote:
Those who make numerous references to the U.S. Constitution

Quote:
Rebels


On the other hand wrote:
"All citizens are advised to be on the lookout for rebels. Please report any rebels you see to the FBI."

Again, I doubt that the document said anything resembling that.

Quote:
And finally, there's Texas, whose manual shares with us some characteristics of terrorists:

- Focused and committed
- Team-oriented and disciplined
- Familiar with their physical environments


So then we can assume that the American government is openly suggesting that a good citizen is unfocused, apathetic, alienated, undiscilplined, and completely clueless as to their surroundings. Okay, whatever.

Seriously. I think the writer of this article has taken some pretty huge liberties with her paraphrasing. Plus, the document seems like it was written for use in the mid-90s, when right-wing militias were the threat du jour among soccer moms looking for something to worry about.


No, that's right, don't simply just take my word for it.

READ IT ALL HERE FOR YOURSELF Confused

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/280306trainingmanual.htm



http://www.virginianewssource.com/images/VATerrorismManual.pdf


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the State becomes the enemy of the people, it follows that thinking people will become enemies of the state.


If all the groups the government is worried about became aware that their complaints all stem from the same cause, they could and would rise up and smite down the fascist/socialist State. So, the government is self aware. It knows it is evil and recognizes that people who believe in peace and freedom are its enemy. It needs to track them, attack them, and disinform them to keep itself in power.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, IGTG. The government document you posted above doesn't say anything about terrorists being "defenders of the Constitution" or "rebels", which is how the woman on the MJ board was saying the document charaterized terrorists.

And please note that the second part of the document doesn't say that all people who want to influence government or social policy are terrorists, it says that influencing government and social policy is one thing that terrorists try to do. Would you dispute that?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
And please note that the second part of the document doesn't say that all people who want to influence government or social policy are terrorists, it says that influencing government and social policy is one thing that terrorists try to do.

Would you dispute that?


Dispute what exactly?

World's Elite Gather To Brainstorm In Secret

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_group



A private security guard and two Ottawa police officers stand guard outside a west end Ottawa hotel Thursday June 8, 2006 where members of the Bilderberg Group, a collection of the worlds richest and most influential people, will be meeting until Sunday.
(CP PHOTO/Tom Hanson)

Andrew Mayeda and Glen McGregor, CanWest News Service; Ottawa Citizen

Published: Friday, June 09, 2006

OTTAWA -- Greeted at the airport by limousine drivers holding single-letter "B" signs, global luminaries such as Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands began arriving in Ottawa Thursday for the annual gathering of the ultra-secretive Bilderberg Group.

Over the next three days, they and other prominent political and business leaders from North America and Europe are expected to discuss issues such as the security threat posed by Iran and the direction of oil markets.

The group's discreet approach was evident as attendees arrived at the Ottawa International Airport.

Outside the airport, a phalanx of limousines queued to ferry guests to the Brookstreet Hotel, where security guards with ear pieces kept watch over the barricaded entrance to the hotel parking lot.

Limos were also dispatched to the nearby Shell Aerocentre to retrieve participants arriving on private aircraft. Some attendees had the single-letter "B" on their luggage tags.

Former U.S. defence policy adviser Richard Perle shot down criticism about the secrecy of the group's meetings.

"It's a private organization," he said. He denied the charge, advanced by Bilderberg critics, that the organization crafts public policy behind closed doors.

"It discusses public policy," he said.

Perle also dismissed suggestions the group's heavy representation from the oil industry gives it influence over global energy prices.

"If it did, I'd be trading on oil futures," he said.

A former assistant secretary of defence to President Ronald Reagan, Perle is still considered an influential adviser in U.S. conservative circles. He advised President George W. Bush and is said to be a close friend of Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

In 2003, he publicly chastised the Canadian government for refusing to send troops to Iraq and warned that "lame-duck" Prime Minister Jean Chretien would be embarrassed once weapons of mass destruction were found.

Also seen arriving Thursday were Jorma Ollila, chairman of Royal Dutch Shell, and Egil Myklebust, chairman of Scandinavian Airlines.

According to an unsigned press release, presumably by Bilderberg organizers, attendees will also include New York Governor George Pataki, former Iraqi deputy prime minister Ahmad Chalabi, the heads of Coca-Cola, Credit Suisse, the Royal Bank of Canada, a number of media moguls, and cabinet ministers from Spain and Greece.

The release confirmed this year's meeting will deal with energy issues, Iran, the Middle East, terrorism, immigration, Russia, European-American relations and Asia.

"The meeting is private to encourage frank and open discussion," said the release.

"There will be no press conference."
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dispute what exactly?


Dispute the idea that terrorists want to influence government and social policy.

And by the way: why shouldn't world leaders hold private conversations with one another? Everyone else does. If Stephen Harper has lunch at David Rockefeller's penthouse in Manhattan, do you think they should have a tape recorder running the entire time? Maybe they should submit the recording to PrisonPlanet for approval.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Dispute what exactly?


On the other hand wrote:
Dispute the idea that terrorists want to influence government and social policy.


Indeed, in all too many cases seasoned terrorists craft & successfully enshrine all kinds of state legislation.

One reason for their apparent success is the undying committment they've shown over their years in hijacking what is all too often the highest public office Idea

Simply put: Violent means consitute terror Twisted Evil

On the other hand wrote:

And by the way: why shouldn't world leaders hold private conversations with one another? Everyone else does. If Stephen Harper has lunch at David Rockefeller's penthouse in Manhattan, do you think they should have a tape recorder running the entire time? Maybe they should submit the recording to PrisonPlanet for approval.


Did i state that their elitist trans-national clique OUGHT NOT have the right to meet & gather, plot & conspire?

One of the major issues here is that they are instrumental in shaping PUBLIC policy, as well as influencing major global events & their outcomes.

Why, when this occurs, any of us should think it's best to simply sit back & stick our heads in the sand i have no idea.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One of the major issues here is that they are instrumental in shaping PUBLIC policy.

Why, when this occurs, any of us should think it's best to simply sit back & stick our heads in the sand i have no idea.


Okay, so your whole point here is that world leaders hold private conversations about public policy, and that these conversations might play a role in their decision-making.

Again, what's so sinister about this? If Bilderberg and Trilateral didn't exist, do you think government officials would all stop talking to one another?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Again, what's so sinister about this? If Bilderberg and Trilateral didn't exist, do you think government officials would all stop talking to one another?


Here's one for you:

Why did its members express such gratitude to the major world press for effectively keeping their existence a secret for so long?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quotes please. And links so we can see them in context.
Or are you just making this stuff up as you go?
Specifically, which Bildiburger[s] expressed gratitude? To which news organization[s]?
Or was this a personal conversation you had?



I think you probably got that from Tony Gosling's homepage,
which would explain why you're not so eager for us to see the link:
http://www.bilderberg.org/tonyhom.htm

Given the way Tony writes on his hompeage,
I wouldn't be at all surprised if you told us you were in fact Tony Gosling himself.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chapter Twelve: The Roots of Terrorism
The Assassin cult and Islamic terrorism today. The birth of the modern secret society
from Gnosticism to Ismailism to the Knights Templar, the Rosicrucians and Freemasonry
.

http://www.sinisterforces.info/
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/110606Bullhorns.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EARLY ZIONIST TERRORIST GANGS

Soon after the end of World War II, there were three basic para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine, working against the Arab people, with the specific purpose of driving it out of Palestine.
These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun_Zvai_Leumi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_Gang

Before the British Mandate, the Jewish settlers had formed a group of mounted armed watchmen called "Hashomar" and with the advent of the British Mandate, it became the Haganah (Defense). With a membership of 60,000 Zionist Jews, the Haganah had a field army of 16,000 trained men and a unit called the Palmach, which was a full-time force, numbering about 6000.

The Irgun Zvai Leumi included between 3000 and 5000 armed terrorists, and grew out of the Haganah and its Palmach branch in 1933. The Irgun was not ready to obey the Jewish Agency which sought to dilute the terror of the Haganah in order not to lose its respectability.

In 1939, one of Irgun's commanding officers, Abraham Stern, left the parent organization and formed the Stern Gang, numbering some 200 to 300 dangerous fanatics.

SOME EARLY EXAMPLES OF JEWISH-ZIONIST TERROR

http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm
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