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Comparing American vs. Korean education

 
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:50 pm    Post subject: Comparing American vs. Korean education Reply with quote

I work at a public elementary school. My VP asked me today if I could give him some resources about american elementary schools- methods, goals, style, etc. He wants kind of a basic overview of how things are done in the Ol' USA. Do you have any links to anything like this?

His English is passable, but not fluent. So, any master's thesis you find, may not work. He wanted something written because its easier to understand than spoken English for him.

Thanks!
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like he wants to start the old immersion program at your school. Good luck.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The basic difference between the American system of education and the Korean system is that the American system focuses on learning how to think, while the Korean system focuses on memorization and listen-and-repeat.

IMHO, the best system is a little of both!
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kat2



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm aware of the differences and have told him what you said, but he wanted a more detailed explanation than I gave.
Anyone have any links to good articles about the foundations of American education?
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hellofaniceguy



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's limited to just the USA....Canada, NZ, Australia, Great Britain, SA and other English speaking countries have pretty much the same foundation and if the school wants more....explaing it to him/her won't make a bit of difference.....you've already explained it to him...break it down like you would a three year old...maybe he'll get it then.


ksonnen wrote:
I'm aware of the differences and have told him what you said, but he wanted a more detailed explanation than I gave.
Anyone have any links to good articles about the foundations of American education?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ksonnen wrote:
I'm aware of the differences and have told him what you said, but he wanted a more detailed explanation than I gave.
Anyone have any links to good articles about the foundations of American education?


Point him to the reading list for the B.Ed department at your favorite University. You are NOT going to explain what he is looking for in a simple conversation.

Explaining creative and critical thinking skills (and how to teach them) to a Korean trained instructor is like explaining colors to a blind man.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean schools don't need metal detectors. Teachers also don't need BPVs.

But American schools are full of evil wae-gooks
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hellofaniceguy



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those same schools needing the items mentioned also have korean students......evil wae-gooks.....evil koreans as well. What...korea has no prisons? No problems in public schools? What....top quality education? I don't see foreigners beating down the doors wanting to attend korean schools!

Pak Yu Man wrote:
Korean schools don't need metal detectors. Teachers also don't need BPVs.

But American schools are full of evil wae-gooks
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would argue that the demand to attend American Universities is significantly stronger than the demand to attend American public high schools; for many reasons, of course.

For more on the current American education situation, please read

The Culture of Narcissism
(American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations)

There is a great chapter on the the decline of standards, SAT scores, reading comprehension and second language skills in both private and public schools in America.
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Jshuah72



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: standards.. Reply with quote

Most American schools and states have web-sites that list or have links to state standards which state goals that children/adults are supposed to acheive. Since education law varies so much from district to district or state to state, methods and goals vary greatly. I'd start with schools you attended or know of, or do a google search.
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SeniorEnglish



Joined: 18 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
The basic difference between the American system of education and the Korean system is that the American system focuses on learning how to think, while the Korean system focuses on memorization and listen-and-repeat.

IMHO, the best system is a little of both!


I completely agree with this statement. The Japanese system was like the Korean system, until they noticed the lack of creativity. Japan is now trying to teach students Western ingenuity by teaching free thinking.
People shouls remember that Japan hasn't actually invented too many things, but improved on a number of things. Japan + free thinkers = you ain't seen nothin yet.
Here I can see people's focus on memorizing material in academics, rather than understanding it. What's the use of memorizing material, if you can't apply it? There is creativity taught in school, correct me if I'm wrong, it is more focused on art and music.
Take my Western education for instance, I am from a small town that just had the basics. So, my parents bought me all sorts of things to increase my creativity rather than memorization. When I got into college, I suffered from not understanding this subject and that subject, but with hard work, I did. Using my unique creativity, I found that I recieved higher grades on my work because I have a ton of new ideas to contribute.
My point is memorization is nothing without the creativity to utilize what one learns in a new way. You can conform creativity to a variety of disciplines compared to the acuteness of memorization.
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