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gporumbe
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Location: FLorida
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 Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: Info plss on Wonderland in ANSAN |
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| I hear many horrible things about Wonderland in general however I also hear some good things. Please can someone share with me recent experiance with the Ansan branch of Wonderland? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Info plss on Wonderland in ANSAN |
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| gporumbe wrote: |
| I hear many horrible things about Wonderland in general however I also hear some good things. Please can someone share with me recent experiance with the Ansan branch of Wonderland? |
It is an absolutely wonderful place to work. That is why it is called Wonderland.
You get to work 7200 contact minutes per month for the same salary as any other hakwon monkey working 6000 contact minutes in the next hakwon. 1200 contact minutes means you are standing in the classroom giving instruction for 10 hours a month more than the next guy.
You get to prep 180 classes per month instead of 120.
You get to go on field trips without being paid for it.
You get to attend compulsory workshops (in Korean) and no extra pay for wasting your time.
You get to attend compulsory staff meetings (in Korean) and no extra pay for wasting your time.
You will work Saturdays (read their new contracts) when you friends are out enjoying their weekends off.
Great place to work. Sign quickly before someone else does!!!! Jobs like that don't come along very often.
SARCASM WAS FULLY INTENDED HERE.....
It is a sh1tty chain to work for and with maybe one exception you can always do better.
Stay away from Wonderland, SLP, Kids College and Kids Herald chains. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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This is the kind of crap that shouldn't be allowed here. Blanket generalisations are almost always completely wrong (I realise the irony of that blanket generalisation I just made. I did it on purpose). There are some great Wonderland schools out there, and there are some terrible ones. You need to check out the individual schools. The OP is doing a good thing here. Don't give him crap info.
Let's check your claims 1x1 and see how wrong you are.
| ttompatz wrote: |
| You get to prep 180 classes per month instead of 120. |
Nope. My contract is for 150 classes per month, and they're shorter. I rarely do over 8 per day and I get OT for any that I do put in.
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| You get to go on field trips without being paid for it. |
Wrong again. I get paid for my field trips. They count as in-class hours. (ie. the Field Trip takes 4 class periods = I get credit for 4 classes taught.)
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| You get to attend compulsory workshops (in Korean) and no extra pay for wasting your time. |
Haven't attended a single workshop in the 2� years I've been with Wonderland. And I don't see any on the horizon in the next year or so.
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| You get to attend compulsory staff meetings (in Korean) and no extra pay for wasting your time. |
Nope. No staff meetings here. I have weekly 20-minute meetings with the other whiteys, but nothing serious. I did have to sit through a 1-hour ceremony in Korean one night the 2nd week of this semester, but that was a one-off and won't be happening again.
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| You will work Saturdays (read their new contracts) when you friends are out enjoying their weekends off. |
I don't work Saturdays unless I get paid for them. I gave up one Saturday to go to an English Village and got paid 100.000 for it. Another Saturday was worked, but we got Monday off instead.
WOW, looks like you were completely wrong. I will gladly accept your apology for looking like an idiot any time you're ready to offer it.
What you should have done is to say that you had a crap experience and warned him to be careful. If you have no info on the particular school he's looking at, don't respond.
To the OP, I know nothing of that branch. Sorry.
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Take what both two posters above said with a grain of salt, but whatever Kprrok might say, I have heard nothing good whatsoever (or even normal) about Wonderland. Really find out about the place before signing at any Wonderland. I am guessing there are more bad than good. Or better, while that WOnderland MIGHT (???) be good, why not go with another school with a better reputation (while most schools have bad ones, their reputations are usually somewhat better  ) |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| kprrok wrote: |
| This is the kind of crap that shouldn't be allowed here. Blanket generalisations are almost always completely wrong (I realise the irony of that blanket generalisation I just made. I did it on purpose). There are some great Wonderland schools out there, and there are some terrible ones. You need to check out the individual schools. The OP is doing a good thing here. Don't give him crap info. |
You are right. Wonderlands are all wonderful places to work and NONE of them should have ever been blacklisted.
The fact that the contract he posted in 2 or 3 other threads here previously had those specific items that I pointed out must in fact be meaningless and I must have read wrong.
I will beg your humble forgivness and defer to your most infinite wisdom and highly recommend Wonderland to any newbie who is coming to Korea.
And as an addendum, I will also add that I would never suggest anyone should contact a current or previous teacher at a school to check it out.
I make it a point to always give BAD advice to newbies. |
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