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Here is some advice to avoid getting screwed

 
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Here is some advice to avoid getting screwed Reply with quote

From what I read here; it seems the situation is steadily getting worse for some people and if they raise the issue with their boss, they get something like; "If you don't like it, there are alot of other foreigners would take your job in a second" (sound familiar?)

I have compiled some ways to help you avoid getting screwed;

1. the best thing to do is to go to Korea and look for work. This way you can see what the conditions are like in the prospective place of work. This is something you can't do while in your home country. But I know this could be difficult for some since some people don't have the funds to come all the way to Korea to do a jobsearch. No sweat- when in doubt, go on the net and look for a blacklist website. But then again, there are some schools that slip through the cracks. So that is when you demand to get the email addresses of some teachers currently working there (and while you email them, try get on their good side, and then try to get the email addresses of some teachers that had problems there or who might have did a midnight run)- try to get a picture of what you are getting into.

2. When signing a contract, make sure you get a bi-lingual copy (this is because it would be handy just in case you have to go to the labor board to resolve an issue regarding your employment).

3. Also, when signing the contract, make sure your boss uses his/ her signature stamp. This will make the contract official, which means your boss has to oblige by the follow the contract word for word.

3a. If they persist on not obliging by the conditions under these conditions, write down the incidence and take the notes along with the contract to the labor board- This will help you build a case against your boss.

3b. If your boss wants to meet and talk to you, make sure you have a Korean co-worker or English speaking staff member present, this might prevent them from lying, threatening or promising something they can't deliver since there would be a witness in the room.

4. If you have questions about the deductions or have doubts about it, always have the address and telephone number to the local tax and pension office available. Take your pay stubs (if you are not getting them, demand them) and take them to the respective office for verification. And if you find that they are deducting and not paying tax or into the pension fund, it might give you leverage when dealing with your boss.


- There are alot more things to add to this list for newbies. If you want to contribute some advice to this threat, you are more than welcome to do it.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"3b. If your boss wants to meet and talk to you, make sure you have a Korean co-worker or English speaking staff member present, this might prevent them from lying, threatening or promising something they can't deliver since there would be a witness in the room."

Isn't this setting up a confrontational atmosphere from the outset?
I would disagree with that piece of advice for a couple of reasons.
I read quickly, but the rest seem ok...
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Here is some advice to avoid getting screwed Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
From what I read here; it seems the situation is steadily getting worse for some people and if they raise the issue with their boss, they get something like; "If you don't like it, there are alot of other foreigners would take your job in a second" (sound familiar?)

I have compiled some ways to help you avoid getting screwed;

1. the best thing to do is to go to Korea and look for work. This way you can see what the conditions are like in the prospective place of work. This is something you can't do while in your home country. But I know this could be difficult for some since some people don't have the funds to come all the way to Korea to do a jobsearch. No sweat- when in doubt, go on the net and look for a blacklist website. But then again, there are some schools that slip through the cracks. So that is when you demand to get the email addresses of some teachers currently working there (and while you email them, try get on their good side, and then try to get the email addresses of some teachers that had problems there or who might have did a midnight run)- try to get a picture of what you are getting into.

2. When signing a contract, make sure you get a bi-lingual copy (this is because it would be handy just in case you have to go to the labor board to resolve an issue regarding your employment).

3. Also, when signing the contract, make sure your boss uses his/ her signature stamp. This will make the contract official, which means your boss has to oblige by the follow the contract word for word.

3a. If they persist on not obliging by the conditions under these conditions, write down the incidence and take the notes along with the contract to the labor board- This will help you build a case against your boss.

3b. If your boss wants to meet and talk to you, make sure you have a Korean co-worker or English speaking staff member present, this might prevent them from lying, threatening or promising something they can't deliver since there would be a witness in the room.

4. If you have questions about the deductions or have doubts about it, always have the address and telephone number to the local tax and pension office available. Take your pay stubs (if you are not getting them, demand them) and take them to the respective office for verification. And if you find that they are deducting and not paying tax or into the pension fund, it might give you leverage when dealing with your boss.


- There are alot more things to add to this list for newbies. If you want to contribute some advice to this threat, you are more than welcome to do it.


Good points thanks for the tips.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might consider reposting this in this thread:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=64338
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason I wrote about bringing someone with you to a meeting with your boss is that by the time you get to this step, you ARE ALREADY in a confrontation with your boss or director.

These are steps to avoid getting screwed while being in a confrontation with the boss Wink

Hey, Thanks for the link.....didn't realize it was there, I guess someone had to remind people of the things to do once in a while..... Cool
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