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Slaps
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 Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: Foreign spouses to submit CRC and health checks for F-visas |
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Looks like the Anti-Atek crowds cries about the ECFA may have been correct.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/06/116_47263.html
It doesn't mention if applicants from 'the big 7' will be vetted but it can only be a matter of time. |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| If the article explains the law correctly (that's a big 'IF') it would't affect those who are already here. It also appears to have nothing to do with work visas. Until it is explained better, I'll take a wait and see approach. |
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OculisOrbis
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Foreign spouses to submit CRC and health checks for F-vi |
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| Slaps wrote: |
| It doesn't mention if applicants from 'the big 7' will be vetted but it can only be a matter of time. |
I thought they already were. Mike and Chicken (IIRC) have said they had to submit such checks for their F visas, so why should they do so again. |
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Slaps
Joined: 22 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| Seriously? You're trying to put the blame on ATEK and Wagner? |
Where did I say that?
I said that the ATEK nay-sayers may have been correct all along that these checks would be implemented for the F-2 visa. I did not comment on why they may be implemented.
I never had to submit any kind of check for my F-2, but that may be because I had already had them done for my E-2.
For the record, I have no problem with these checks as long as I only have to do them once, which from my understanding, is the case for F-2 holders. |
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vk33
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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i woudnt shovel this paranoid proverbial crap article on anyones doorstep. Korea and especially its government, despite what it claims to be, it still overly cautious of foreign people and outright xenophobic in setting policy. this agenda, if it actually comes to pass, is just an extension of that.
there was enough criticism of immigration policy going on before ATEK came panhandling around for expats to join the ECFA campaign, that im sure the locals wouldve gotten to this point of policy making regardless.
even still, i doubt that the government will have much success imposing such a policy on current F series visa holders, but those applying for the first time likely would. the bigger question is will they start demanding this stuff from those seeking a renewal?
currently, F2s dont have to give up this kind of paperwork (or at least i didnt last fall). perhaps chicken and mike will weigh in to clarify whether or not they had to do this very thing to get their F2s or F5s. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: Information |
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| vk33 wrote: |
i woudnt shovel this paranoid proverbial crap article on anyones doorstep. Korea and especially its government, despite what it claims to be, it still overly cautious of foreign people and outright xenophobic in setting policy. this agenda, if it actually comes to pass, is just an extension of that.
there was enough criticism of immigration policy going on before ATEK came panhandling around for expats to join the ECFA campaign, that im sure the locals wouldve gotten to this point of policy making regardless.
even still, i doubt that the government will have much success imposing such a policy on current F series visa holders, but those applying for the first time likely would. the bigger question is will they start demanding this stuff from those seeking a renewal?
currently, F2s dont have to give up this kind of paperwork (or at least i didnt last fall). perhaps chicken and mike will weigh in to clarify whether or not they had to do this very thing to get their F2s or F5s. |
I am not Chicken or Mike, but I will respond.
As an F-2-1 recipient I did in fact have a CRC done and the medical check was done here in Korea through my school. Some have claimed, even those on F-2 visas that they did not have a CRC done, however, I did and it was verified by my spouse at the time that it was done.
As an F-5-9 recipient it (procedural process from the immigration website) clearly states as part of the examination process that a CRC is done. This is why no one from the ECFA discussion ever challenged the F-5 visa holders in the first place. The medical check was just a continuation of my employment anyway, but even if it had been requested, it is a no brainer to go get yourself checked out for potential health problems.
I hope this provides some insight from someone who has been through it and had no problem going through the process. I am not saying other people are going to be happy if it comes down to getting checked prior to coming into the country, but for those who are in country, it is doubtful that anything is going to change in this regard. In my opinion, it appears to be a potentiality focusing on those people not yet in Korea. |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| currently, F2s dont have to give up this kind of paperwork (or at least i didnt last fall). perhaps chicken and mike will weigh in to clarify whether or not they had to do this very thing to get their F2s or F5s. |
F5's are all checked out. Criminal checks and financial checks are done by Immi when you get the F-5. I have an F-2, and so I can only tell what happened with my check:
I went to Uijeongbu Immigration with my wife and they gave us a list of required documents in Korean. They crossed out the part asking for a criminal check and told my wife (in Korean) that I did not need it as I worked for a public school. As far as they were concerned, the check I had submitted was adequate.
I got the F-2 after the new policy was implemented for E-2 visas. They may have added this as something for F-2's who worked as teachers around the same time without publicising it. Whatever happened, the impression we got was that they were not requesting it of new F-visa applicants who had not already provided the checks. I am not sure what happened to F-visa holders who were granted their F-visa before the checks, but I would guess that they had their rights grandfathered in. Immigration are unlikely to revoke residency because they decided to change the law. |
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BigBuds
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Location: Changwon
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As Tob55 said, F-5's like Tob55 and myself have had to go through all these checks and then some.
If E-2 visa holders had to go through the checks we have and get the large amount of paperwork done we did, there wouldn't be many E-2 visa holders here, if any. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: Information |
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Thanks BigBuds for the comment. I have tried to stay away from the ours is better then yours approach on the visa issues and concerns. There are many long term E-visa holders, in my opinion, that should have had the opportunity to seek the F-visa irregardless of their marital status or family connection to the country. These are the people I would really like to help in some way. I have friends in that situation, and I ask questions regularly to see how things are going with respect to making progress, but honestly it is a slow process.
Hopefully, this year I will be able to make some progress in helping someone get through the process that is not married to a Korean. That is my goal, and I am doing what I can to see it happen. It isn't an easy goal to achieve, but if we can work with the right people, changes will be made for the better. |
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hang10
Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Asia, Twice the sex half the foreplay
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| vk33 wrote: |
i woudnt shovel this paranoid proverbial crap article on anyones doorstep. Korea and especially its government, despite what it claims to be, it still overly cautious of foreign people and outright xenophobic in setting policy. this agenda, if it actually comes to pass, is just an extension of that. |
Some one actually knows Ahhem. So true. After leaving SK AKA asias teaching prison, i would agree:) |
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