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JollyJekins

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Location: Yorkshire Pudding
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: Other professionals Salary |
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Hello, I am a businessman is Seoul. I was recruited by a Korean compnay to help them set-up internationally focused relationships with other businesses and countries. I feel they don't pay enough. I work almost 35 hours per week and am only making 5,500,000 per month.
I was wondering what the average business professional makes. I get a 500,000 housing allowance, is that the norm? Just wondering if I can negotiate a better contract next time. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: Other professionals Salary |
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JollyJekins wrote: |
Hello, I am a businessman is Seoul. I was recruited by a Korean compnay to help them set-up internationally focused relationships with other businesses and countries. I feel they don't pay enough. I work almost 35 hours per week and am only making 5,500,000 per month.
I was wondering what the average business professional makes. I get a 500,000 housing allowance, is that the norm? Just wondering if I can negotiate a better contract next time. |
You would have to be a bit more specific. What are your credentials? Do you speak Korean well enough for the business? I can't help you, but there are some here who can, but probaly need a bit more info. |
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JollyJekins

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Location: Yorkshire Pudding
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Bachelors in Computer Informations Systems and Linguistics, a MSc in International Business, and can speak Japanese, Spanish, Tagalog, and Bengali pretty fluently. I am still learning Korean. My job is to work as a liason between the U.K., Japan and some Latin American companies. I also manage some databases, create presentations, and as a translator. The top execs as well as my underboss speak better English than I. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:51 am Post subject: |
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I'd say you're getting screwed. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:55 am Post subject: |
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Top 50 companies hired more, paid less
The average annual salary for employees at those 50 companies, base salary plus bonus payments, dropped to 49.3 million won ($50,740), from 50.8 million won in 2004. Because of the companies' generally poor performance owing to the U.S. dollar weakening against the Korean won and a record-breaking rise in international oil prices, they reduced the bonuses given to employees.
by Lee Hyun-sang and Kwon Hyuk-joo, JoongAng Daily (April 03, 2006)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200604/02/200604022233527709900090509051.html
Daelim Pays Most to Employees
Workers at Daelim Industrial got the highest monthly wage of 6.8 million won on average, according to the KRX. But employees of SK GAS, the country�s largest importer of liquefied petroleum gas, which paid the highest monthly salary of 7.2 million won on average last year, received only 5.1 million won, ranking 14th. The Korea Development Corporation came in second as it paid an average monthly salary of 6.2 million won, followed by Seoul Broadcasting System (SBS) with 5.9 million won, becoming the country�s highest paying media company. Korea Exchange Bank took the fourth spot as it paid its workers an average 5.6 million won per month, followed by Doosan Heavy Industries and Construction with 5.5 million won.
By Lee Hyo-sik, Korea Times (August 16, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200608/kt2006081618114411910.htm
Contract workers profit, study finds
According to the federation's data, the average monthly wage -- annual salaries divided by 12 -- for a department chief on contract was measured at 4.5 million won ($4,300), while the average deputy department head received 3.8 million won per month.
by Suh Kyoung-ho, JoongAng Daily (December 05, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200512/04/200512042151449079900090509051.html
Asiaweek Salary Survey 2000
In The Company Of Millionaires
By YASMIN GHAHREMANI, Asiaweek VOL. 26 NO. 10 (March 17, 2000)
http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/magazine/2000/0317/cover1.html |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:04 am Post subject: Re: Other professionals Salary |
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JollyJekins wrote: |
Hello, I am a businessman is Seoul. I was recruited by a Korean compnay to help them set-up internationally focused relationships with other businesses and countries. I feel they don't pay enough. I work almost 35 hours per week and am only making 5,500,000 per month.
I was wondering what the average business professional makes. I get a 500,000 housing allowance, is that the norm? Just wondering if I can negotiate a better contract next time. |
According to RR's links you are doing quite well indeed. Most of us make about half of what you make and work as long hours or longer. Were I you, I wouldn't 'rock the boat'. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: Re: Other professionals Salary |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
JollyJekins wrote: |
Hello, I am a businessman is Seoul. I was recruited by a Korean compnay to help them set-up internationally focused relationships with other businesses and countries. I feel they don't pay enough. I work almost 35 hours per week and am only making 5,500,000 per month.
I was wondering what the average business professional makes. I get a 500,000 housing allowance, is that the norm? Just wondering if I can negotiate a better contract next time. |
According to RR's links you are doing quite well indeed. Most of us make about half of what you make and work as long hours or longer. Were I you, I wouldn't 'rock the boat'. |
Well, even discounting whatever experience the guy might have, he has a useful MA for the job, and a bachelor of computer science is useful in many, many fields and I am sure his no less. Add in the Japanese and Spanish (though the other two are somewhat useless, assuming he really is pretty much fluent) and he is pretty well off. I think he could ask for a bit more if he has relevant experience. If not, I suggest not rocking the boat either.
I should point out to the OP though that many businessmen who make a lot of money also work a lot more than 35 hours a week.
This is all opinion. |
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stevieg4ever

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Other professionals Salary |
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Hello, I am a businessman is Seoul. I was recruited by a Korean compnay to help them set-up internationally focused relationships with other businesses and countries. I feel they don't pay enough. I work almost 35 hours per week and am only making 5,500,000 per month.
I was wondering what the average business professional makes. I get a 500,000 housing allowance, is that the norm? Just wondering if I can negotiate a better contract next time. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:55 am Post subject: |
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35 hours a week in a non-esl job?
Enjoy it. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: |
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MSc in Internatinal Business - did you go to Birkbeck College???? |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Only 35 hours? A dream. The pay sounds OK, allowances low, but depends on function etc etc. |
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JollyJekins

Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Location: Yorkshire Pudding
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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I went to Cambridge and UCE Birmingham, I hear the job outlook is very poor for Birbeck. Tzechuk, did you go to Birbeck? Where are you working? Just wondering...... |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on how far along you are in your career, I'd say just smile and say 'salary history'. Do some good work there, improve your Korean, and network into something that pays better.
Yes, I'm sure there are some here that make more for working the same or fewer hours, but your salary is enough to live on pretty well and save up some coin. Also, with your background it's better to stay corporate and angle for better jobs down the road. On the other hand, maybe you can just start up your own consulting company later on. Just my 2 cents. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Remember the income tax rate here is 3.5% or there abouts. Maybe it's higher for your bracket. But lets say it's 5%. That's a gross of 72K a year with housing. Your take home is 68K a year. What do you have to gross in North America to get a take home of 68k? You need to make about 100K a year at least to net that. Add in the cost of living on all kinds of other things is cheaper than North America, as long as you live native. In Canada I let my A/C run all day, my monthly power bill jumps $200. In Korea, it jumps $50. The subway is half in Korea what you'd pay in North America.
You don't mention how many years experience you have. Are you North American or are you from SE or South Asia?
Compared to SE Asia, I'd say you're doing pretty well. Way beyond what a lot of doctors probably make in Korea even. And your hours are pretty short, assuming they actually allow you to only work 35 hours. |
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Cheonmunka

Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Count yourself fortunate, Bud.
I'm a registered high school teacher (post-grad qualified), 12 years + with Korean langauge learning (major of study) and usage, living here seven, two kids, vehicle, own house... yaddy yah, can't scrape up more than 3.5 on a good month.
I was thinking the other day about the very real uses of an MBA.
Because, unfortunately, a public school teacher's MA is worth half the business person's MBA.
I'd be fortuante indeed for the same income mentioned previously. |
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