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[alabamaman]

What percentage of the schools that you've worked at have actually allowed accurate grading (no preassure for bias), and then actually acted on the grading to place students in classes that would benefit them the most?


What type of school did you work at and number of schools worked at?


What percentage of the schools that you've worked at have actually allowed accurate grading ?


If your school allowed for accurate grading, did it act on the grading to place students in the classes that benefitted them the most?


What kind of grading system did your school have?


How would you change the grading system?

[Homer]

Poll in order?

Number of schools worked at?

Types of schools?

Ya gotta define this is you want semi-credible results right?

[SeniorEnglish]

Hogwans?

At one, the average had to be 82%. Some students who recieved 15% on the test wre actually bumped up to like 60% to keep up the average. There were some students in level 3 of 9 who couldn't recite the alphabet.

Thank goodeness at the school I am at now, the grades are accurate. However, there are students that move up to the next level regardless.

[Novernae]

What percentage of the schools that you've worked at have actually allowed accurate grading (no preassure for bias), and then actually acted on the grading to place students in classes that would benefit them the most?
50%

What type of school did you work at and number of schools worked at?
2 Hogwans, elementary and middle school levels.

What percentage of the schools that you've worked at have actually allowed accurate grading ?

The first school allowed for some accuracy in the upper level essays, and everyday tests and homework were marked at face value but the marks didn't count for anything. The bigger tests that accually counted had to be 80% or more. Report cards had to be negative and positive; We had to mention one bad thing about the student and mix it in with something positive.

Second school is completely accurate with grading, except they encourage us to be positive with our report cards.

If your school allowed for accurate grading, did it act on the grading to place students in the classes that benefitted them the most?

First school, we made recomendations but they were never listened to.

Second school, yes, in fact we spend a lot of our time discussing students among the teachers and often students are moved to other classes at our recomendation. We are in the process of spliting some levels and this is wholly based on our opinions of the students rather than the level test which the students believe to be the deciding factor.

What kind of grading system did your school have?

First school, daily dictation tests and dictation homework, or essays in the upper levels. We used percentages or took a certain amount off of 100 for each mistake, and arbitrarily assigned classmarks.

Second school, we have daily vocab tests, bimonthly comprehension and oral/reading tests, as well as essays and other more indepth homework for the upper levels in their writing and reading classes. We use percentages or toefl grading (out of 5) or arbitrary classmarks.

How would you change the grading system?
At my current school, I wouldn't really change it. At my last school, I'd make our marks count, though really, all the kids thought they counted and that made them try hard at least, so the marks accomplished what they needed to.

[Grotto]

First school elementary hogwan ECC, tests were made up by the teacher, very simple (5 questions) How the student did was immaterial we were told to give them A's and B's...mostly A's. Handwritten report cards once per month for 80 students....each with 3 lines of comments. Total waste of time. Students were placed in classes in accordance to when they could come. Although there was some attempt to place them in with their own agegroup.

Second school elementary to adults hogwan. Tests meant nothing....in fact we were told NOT to test students as it may put too much preassure on them! After about 8 months the school decided that we should start doing report cards for the students(handwritten again, with a paragraph or two of comments) I told them to go fornicate themselves!

Third school Elementary Public school. No testing was allowed. The school really didnt care about assessing the level of the students competance. I gave some tests to the OT classes I taught and was told that I really shouldnt do that. Good ol GEPIK! Nice to know that they are pumping in Millions of dollars but not expecting any results!

So I would say 0 for 3

[Homer]

What percentage of the schools that you've worked at have actually allowed accurate grading (no preassure for bias), and then actually acted on the grading to place students in classes that would benefit them the most?

Hakwons 3 out of 4

Public School and Uni is all of them.

1 of those required actions from the teaching staff to improve the grading and class management system. Solutions were reviewed and implemented by management.


What type of school did you work at and number of schools worked at?

Various: Hakwons, Public School and University.


What percentage of the schools that you've worked at have actually allowed accurate grading ?

Answered above.



If your school allowed for accurate grading, did it act on the grading to place students in the classes that benefitted them the most?

Most of them did but with the caveat that some students just could not be moved due to their conflicting schedules.


What kind of grading system did your school have?

Some used %.

Others used letters (A, B, C, D...).

Some graded along the lines of Excellent, Very Good, Above Average, Average...each category being clearly defined (were eductional objectives met by the student and so on...).

How would you change the grading system?

The one school where there was a problem we changed the grading system from a comment based evaluation to a letter system with clear evaluation guidelines.


In my experience, the teacher can have a lot of say in evaluation. Placement is a school issue and it often is out of the control of the administration as some students have heavy schedules with limited room for re-scheduling.

Evaluation and grading can also be improved by individual teachers. Your school does not test well then do your own evaluation of students. Call those progress markers and adapt your lesson according to the results your get. As a teacher, your job is to ensure your students learn...so give yourself the means to ensure this. If at the end of the day your school is hopelessly bad in areas of evaluation and level placement....and you tried your best...move on!

[Zark]