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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Building new sys.....chip spec question Reply with quote
Hello tech people,
I'm going to build a new machine and have some questions.

I'm looking at the new Core 2 Duo chips. I won't go for the xtreme model but I noticed that the other models have either a 2 or 4 mb cache. What's the main advantage of taking the 4 mb?

I will be:
Editing digital video
Encoding from H264 to dvd
Re-encoding from dvd to dvd using DVDRebuilder/CCE
Downloading 24/7
Web browsing
Burning disks of course

I dont need it for gaming.

So which chip of the range do you recommend.

Allso, going for Crucial or Corsair ram can make a big difference, or is it minimal?

Thanks
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Building new sys.....chip spec question Reply with quote
SHANE02 wrote:
Hello tech people,
I'm going to build a new machine and have some questions.

I'm looking at the new Core 2 Duo chips. I won't go for the xtreme model but I noticed that the other models have either a 2 or 4 mb cache. What's the main advantage of taking the 4 mb?

I will be:
Editing digital video
Encoding from H264 to dvd
Re-encoding from dvd to dvd using DVDRebuilder/CCE
Downloading 24/7
Web browsing
Burning disks of course

I dont need it for gaming.

So which chip of the range do you recommend.

Allso, going for Crucial or Corsair ram can make a big difference, or is it minimal?

Thanks


Regarding the processor; you'll get double the speed. Though, it may not be that noticeable.

I REALLY haven't noticed that much of a difference with the varied types of RAM out there. I went with Corsair this time because after reading a variety of posts out there (diff. forums, etc.) it seems to be the preference of the elite pc builder, gamer, etc.
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks,
after some research I'm thinking the E6400 would be great for me. It seems its a more stable overclocker and many people are saying that the 2 mb/4mb cache thing is (right now not a big deal) untill new software comes along.

Now reading up how to overclock the E6400.

Has anyone here done it?

Edit: wow with the right cooling it's so easy. I know I don't need to overclock, but hey why not?
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You don't get double the speed with Duo cores!!!!

They work like the old dual processors that Tuan (spelling) used to make back in the late 90s early 2000s.

I'd say go with the higher memory cache because it seems like what you're doing requires a bit of multitasking (perfect for duo core and with the extra memory). Not sure about the brand of memory but I've heard a lot of good things about Corsair.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
SHANE02 wrote:
Thanks,
after some research I'm thinking the E6400 would be great for me. It seems its a more stable overclocker and many people are saying that the 2 mb/4mb cache thing is (right now not a big deal) untill new software comes along.

Now reading up how to overclock the E6400.

Has anyone here done it?

Edit: wow with the right cooling it's so easy. I know I don't need to overclock, but hey why not?

IMO, if you are going to spend that kind of money for the E6400, why not go to the E6600 (like mine). It's not as bad of a jump as going from the e6600 to the ultra series.
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
cubanlord wrote:
SHANE02 wrote:
Thanks,
after some research I'm thinking the E6400 would be great for me. It seems its a more stable overclocker and many people are saying that the 2 mb/4mb cache thing is (right now not a big deal) untill new software comes along.

Now reading up how to overclock the E6400.

Has anyone here done it?

Edit: wow with the right cooling it's so easy. I know I don't need to overclock, but hey why not?

IMO, if you are going to spend that kind of money for the E6400, why not go to the E6600 (like mine). It's not as bad of a jump as going from the e6600 to the ultra series.


Cuban Lord,
what cooling/heatsink are you using? Why did you choose that ram you have?
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
SHANE02 wrote:
cubanlord wrote:
SHANE02 wrote:
Thanks,
after some research I'm thinking the E6400 would be great for me. It seems its a more stable overclocker and many people are saying that the 2 mb/4mb cache thing is (right now not a big deal) untill new software comes along.

Now reading up how to overclock the E6400.

Has anyone here done it?

Edit: wow with the right cooling it's so easy. I know I don't need to overclock, but hey why not?

IMO, if you are going to spend that kind of money for the E6400, why not go to the E6600 (like mine). It's not as bad of a jump as going from the e6600 to the ultra series.


Cuban Lord,
what cooling/heatsink are you using? Why did you choose that ram you have?


Regarding the RAM:

"OCZ EL PC2-5400 DDR2 667MHz Dual Channel Gold Memory
OCZ Gold DDR2 is designed to offer gamers incredible high frequency performance and speed for a lower price point. OCZ PC2-5400 Gold Series boasts 4-4-4 timings�lower latencies than standard DDR2-677�combating system lag time and helping deliver maximum frame rates.

All OCZ Gold DDR2 products are 100% hand-tested to ensure reliable performance. Furthermore, every DDR2-677 Dual Channel Kit is confirmed as a matched pair to ensure flawless performance on most motherboards. Each member of the OCZ PC2-5400 Gold family offers integrated gold mirrored copper heatspreaders for efficient heat dissipation, a lifetime warranty, toll-free technical support and the exclusive EVP� (Extended Voltage Protection) coverage."

When it comes to PC components, I don't like to go with the cheap stuff. Remember, in the PC arena, you get what you pay for. Thus, the cheaper the ram is, the more likely you are to have problems: i.e. high latency rates, worse timings, warmer enviornments, etc.

Regarding the cooling:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Sku=S457-1034

Nothign special. Right now, my pc has two large fans blowing the air in from the front and out the back. This is recommended to be the most efficient way to cool your system. With the airflow going through, my CPU has no problem dissipating the heat.

Yesterday, I ran a little testity test. Smile This is what I did:

Ran a server of 12 participants in F.E.A.R.
Opening up another channel and played F.E.A.R. within my own server.
Download two movies at the same time
Ran outlook express which checks email every minute.
Ran norton's antivirus.
ran both aol and msn messenger.

NEVER ONCE did I experience any "slow" time while playing. Everything ran flawlessly at an average temperature of 45 degrees celcius. Once I stopped the load, my temp. went back down to 35 to 37 degrees celcius (the usually idle temp for my pc).

Now...maybe...MAYBE in a few months, I'll upgrade to this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1432341&CatId=0

That is best of the best right now. Just remember, the cooler your pc, the more smoothly your stuff will run (just like a car).
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep went with the 6600 on a p5b board, 2 gig of 6400/800 mhz ram.
I have been using the same laptop for 5 years and it's running just fine if a little hot, but I think I'm about to feel a slight change. I've never even used a dual core before. Razz
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