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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: Quitting my job -- advice please |
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I wanted my last day to be the end of my pay period, which should be September 10th (happens to be a Sunday, so that would make it September 8th). My replacement is coming on the 7th, so it all works great, but the director wants him to have a week of observation....
Now I gave my notice months and months ago, but they didn't get around to recruiting anyone until late in the summer. However, as long as I don't get another damn cold, there is no real reason why I can't work for an extra week -- especially if the pay is decent.
But.... do you think this would be a good time for me to ask if I will be getting some portion of my severance pay or the million won in lieu of airfare? I will have finished 8 months of the contract, and I've given them more than 4 months notice. I was going to leave it up to the director's discretion since I know they like me, and it is a bit of a gray area, but now that they are asking a favour of me, perhaps I should bring it up (i.e. before the extra days start, not after).
Also, the hourly overtime rate is crap -- is it wrong for me to ask to be paid a daily salary for the extra days, based on my monthly rate?
It's been a pretty good job and my director has been reasonable and fair in the past and I definitely don't want to cause bad feelings, but we could also REALLY use the extra money.
What would you do? |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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If this is your first year, your institution will owe you nothing in terms of severance. You get that after one full year. Now, if you are in your second year, the way I understand it works is thusly...
--If you collected severance after the first year, they dont haev to pay a pro-rated portion of the second year.
--If you DIDN'T collect your severance after the first year, then you would be owed a pro-rated portion of the severance.
Why, I dont know. I remember reading it on some k-gov website, but for the life of me, I cant rememebr which, or even when.
All that being said, it never hurts to at least ask....respectfully...along with the story about how much you and your family need the money. Family is very important here, so they might understand.
I think it's entirely fair to ask for your daily rate if you stay on longer. I would guess your ARC and visa will still be good because you are only 8 months in... |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
If this is your first year, your institution will owe you nothing in terms of severance. You get that after one full year. Now, if you are in your second year, the way I understand it works is thusly...
--If you collected severance after the first year, they dont haev to pay a pro-rated portion of the second year.
--If you DIDN'T collect your severance after the first year, then you would be owed a pro-rated portion of the severance.
Why, I dont know. I remember reading it on some k-gov website, but for the life of me, I cant rememebr which, or even when.
All that being said, it never hurts to at least ask....respectfully...along with the story about how much you and your family need the money. Family is very important here, so they might understand.
I think it's entirely fair to ask for your daily rate if you stay on longer. I would guess your ARC and visa will still be good because you are only 8 months in... |
Thanks poet -- very thoughtful reply.
I am in my second year, but they paid my full severance after the first year -- which is why it is a bit of a gray area and if they give it to me, it will not be because of labour law.
No problem with immigration because I'm on an F-2.
Respectfully asking seems the way to go to me too -- nice to hear that you agree. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Cool, good luck with it. Let us know how it works out... |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I should add, for those who don't know me, that I'm quitting to have a baby -- so obviously the director understands why I'm leaving. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Ah, well, that kind of adds something to it. I'm sure the director, et al, are delighted for you. That should help your case. |
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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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I had a co-worker in your same situation except it was her first contract and she got zilch! No severance , no airfare, no nothing! Her husband stayed and finished his contract and got everything. So if you can at least get something, I'd say lucky for you.
I wouldn't count on it tho. |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Best thing to do is ask....the worst they can do is say no.
Tell them you would like to get 2/3 of your severance.
If they want you there another week, just divide your salary by 4 and tell them thats what you want.
OR
You could wait and see what they do, hoping for the best. If they dont do any of those things you could then approach them and explain that you felt you were entitled to sev and x pay. |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the advice. I think I'll talk to her on Monday and see what she thinks is fair. As I said, this isn't my first year at this kindergarten and we have a good relationship. She actually offered to give me 3 months maternity leave and keep my job for me, but I declined. I also spoke to my supervisor/friend about it last night and she said she thought the director would probably be generous. I think I'll ask for half though, not 2/3 -- that would seem to be pushing it a bit.
Thanks again, and I'll let you know how it goes. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| casey's moon wrote: |
Thanks for the advice. I think I'll talk to her on Monday and see what she thinks is fair. As I said, this isn't my first year at this kindergarten and we have a good relationship. She actually offered to give me 3 months maternity leave and keep my job for me, but I declined. I also spoke to my supervisor/friend about it last night and she said she thought the director would probably be generous. I think I'll ask for half though, not 2/3 -- that would seem to be pushing it a bit.
Thanks again, and I'll let you know how it goes. |
WHY ARE YOU QUITTING??
You are LEGALLY ENTITLED to 60 days paid leave for childbirth (90 days total - 45 before and 45 after childbirth).
LABOR STANDARDS ACT OF KOREA:
Article 72 (Protection of Health of Pregnant Female)
(1) An employer shall allow a pregnant female worker 90 days of maternity leave before and after childbirth. In such case, 45 days or more shall be allocated after the childbirth.
(2) Of the maternity leave pursuant to paragraph (1), the first 60 days� leave shall be with pay.
(3) An employer shall not have a female worker in pregnancy work overtime, and, if there is a request from the concerned worker, shall transfer the worker to other light or easy work.
That will put you into your 11th month. work for a month after that and you get all your benefits.
Seems like a multi-million won mistake to me (and we just had our newborn (July) so I more than understand). |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I don't want to go back to work anytime soon, not even for a month. Also, what you've written doesn't apply in my case -- it's for permanent employees, not employees with one-year contracts. My husband has already looked into this on my behalf.
Thanks for the advice though. |
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