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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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 Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: Iranians don't like ties |
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| After viewing perhaps 100 photos of contemporary Iranians, I've noticed they don't like neckties. They like the leisure suit atmosphere. Even the president Ahabibijabman. They are all "cas". Do neckties offend Islam? |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| they're all about the carpet |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Wikipedia says ties are decadent, un-Islamic, and a symbol of the oppressive West
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At the time of the Iranian Islamic Revolution, the Islamic fundamentalist hardliners of the revolution were called by the mainstream U.S. press "turbans", and the modernist moderates were called "neckties". Ties have been denounced in Iran as decadent, un-Islamic, and a symbol of the oppressive West. Since then, most Iranian men have worn long-sleeved shirts with collars but no ties.
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not big on ties either. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| None of the teachers at my school wear ties. Neither do I. |
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| I'm not big on ties either. |
I have a photo on my office door from the Korea Times earlier this spring of a long line of Korean men wearing casual shirts and no ties. (They all seemed to be holding a jacket over their arms.) The photo was part of some government propaganda to discourage wearing jackets and ties in offices for the purpose of staying comfortable naturally instead of having to turn the air conditioning up so much to stay comfortable. Something to do with energy conservation.
Public-spirited type that I am, I've been doing my part to help the government achieve these goals.
(And I don't like wearing ties anyway. Cuts off the blood supply to the brain and makes one stupid, don'tcha know. 'Course Bush is the same it seems with or without a tie.   ) |
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dbee
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Might be a middle eastern thing. The majority of Israeli's don't wear ties either, in an office environment... |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| Do you think the US will bomb Iran soon? maybe even nuke it?? They're running out of time.... |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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It seems Iranians don't care to be liked by the West. Thats fine, that their deal, that whats they're into. However, untrimmed beards, foppy hair, bad suits etc plays into the "wild unshaven Muslim stereotype". That and Pakistani pajama shirts. The Sauds don't have a problem with ties or even well tailored suits. The colorful Moo-moo's worn by African Muslims make them look happy becuase fat people wear moo-moos and fat people are jolly.
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| Do you think the US will bomb Iran soon? maybe even nuke it?? They're running out of time.... |
We have plenty of time and bombs we do however lack the manliness to use the bombs. |
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Rum Jungle
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: North Asia
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:11 am Post subject: |
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I wonder if it's because the tie may, in their belief system, remind them of the Christian cross.
My CELTA trainer back home had taught in one of the Gulf States and during his writing classes had noticed that the students weren't crossing their "ts". When he asked why they said it resembled a cross and that's why they were not thrilled to do it! |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:48 am Post subject: |
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 Well that tears it! From now on I'm refusing to write the letter "c" because it resembles the crescent. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: ... |
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As I know it, ties started from rags in the Napoleonic era that soldiers would wear to wipe off sweat and grime without troubling themselves with pockets.
From there, they grew into the pointless, useless, modern nuisances that they are.
Speaking of modern nuisances, Duluoz, how do you like ties? |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| I'm neutral but I'm aware they can make me look better when it matters so I have a few nice ones that are artfully created. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| dulouz wrote: |
Wikipedia says ties are decadent, un-Islamic, and a symbol of the oppressive West
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At the time of the Iranian Islamic Revolution, the Islamic fundamentalist hardliners of the revolution were called by the mainstream U.S. press "turbans", and the modernist moderates were called "neckties". Ties have been denounced in Iran as decadent, un-Islamic, and a symbol of the oppressive West. Since then, most Iranian men have worn long-sleeved shirts with collars but no ties.
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Well, ties are certainly oppressive. The fact that one can be judged negatively for wearing one or not is nothing else but that. |
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