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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:56 am Post subject: My TEFL course update |
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I have been taking a TEFL course from The International TEFL Corporation, and I'd like to share my experience thusfar:
http://www.teflcorp.com/ol-prices.htm
For $295, I am getting a 100-hour online course. Actually, they are adding on some extra hours to make it 110 (a requirement for my employer).
The course is supposed to take about 5 hours per unit -- for a total of 20 units. It's taking me closer to 2 or 3 hours to complete each unit, but they said the first few units are easier. Each unit has a packet of approximately 12 to 18 pages. First you read the packet, then answer the questions on a separate answer sheet. The questions more or less make you rewrite the important material in the unit.
I have completed nearly 3 packets. When I complete a packet, I e-mail it back to my "tutor," who usually has it checked in a day or so. Basic replies are "good job -- keep up the good work" and simple stuff, as you could probably imagine. I've only turned in two units, and they were pretty easy, so it's hard to tell how constructive comments will be down the road.
There is no on-site teaching, but you can "buy" 1 or 2 weeks of that for between $400 and $800 dollars, I think. Just check out the link above. The on-site teaching is done in cooperation with TEFL International in Phukett.
Why did I choose this course? Simple. It's the absolute cheapest course that actually might teach me something. I didn't want a "buy a certificate" situation. I had to appease my employer and get "a TEFL certificate" on my own dime. I figure this is the best route for me to go right now. As others have said, the rules for TEFL/TESL/TESOL will be changing in the next year.
I can get this one done in under a few months, on my own time, and can add on-site teacher observation at a later date, if it is required. If the gov't gets REALLY strict, and only accepts TEFL/TEST certification from a University, for example, then I will only be out $295 instead of $1500 plus airfare. For now, my employer is happy with anything that says over 100 hours on the certificate. If my certificate were deemed "worthless" for not having on-site teaching hours, and a certificate from TEFL International were acceptable, then they said I could use the fee from this course as a discount off of the full tuition for the TEFL International on-site Phukett course.
Apparently, one of the owners owns a piece of both companies.
If anyone has any questions, let me know.
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:05 am Post subject: |
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How would you rate the content of each of the units you've completed? Is it helpful in any way? |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Well, I'm into Unit 3 now, and it's starting to hit some things I don't know (teaching methods, etc.). Some of the methods are similiar to what I do in my class -- I guess, now I have a name to put to those methods.
Unit 2 was an introductory grammar unit. It wasn't difficult, but was slightly helpful to me. It was fairly basic stuff, but stuff I had forgotten. There are at least 2 or 3 more grammar units coming in the future.
Still a little early to tell how helpful it will all be. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:22 am Post subject: |
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When you are a few more units into this program would you mind posting again your evaluation of the quality of the material? I'm interested in doing a course and would like to hear about it. |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Will do.
Just a mention of what I've had so far....
Unit 2 had grammar, such as nouns, verbs, comparative/superlative adjectives, adverbs, prepositions, pronouns, gerunds, infinitives, articles, and conjunctions.
Unit 3 briefly covered teaching methods, including: Grammar Translation, Audio Lingualism, PPP, Task-based learning, Communicative Language Teaching, Community Language Learning, The Silent Way (this one sounded like a joke), Suggestopaedia, and The Lexical Approach.
I see that Unit 4 will be more indepth coverage of Present Tenses. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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hey cool I've been looking into it as well thanks for the link and feedback. |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, by the way, the guy who checks my packets is leaving today for a 2 week vacation. He sent me some extra packets to work on while he was away. He does have an associate there, but not sure if he can sign you up in the next 2 weeks or not. (gone until July 28, I think). |
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butter808fly

Joined: 09 May 2004 Location: Northern California, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, that sounds like a good sound course that you are getting a lot of information from. I didnt know that these TEFL courses also give some of the fundamental basics of English that Ive forgotten! Im curious though, the 'on land' courses are internationally recognized and accreditated. What about the online course youre are taking? |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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I am very skeptical about the value of many online courses.
But at that price you're getting your money's worth.
Who cares about the worth of a certificate when one is getting an education that enriches one's experience as a teacher. And, in Korea, the certificate would be worth something, maybe even on par with the CELTA in the eyes of those who know little to nothing about ESL training options anyways!
Sounds like you're getting the most of it.
For those who want an online course which is respected by those in the know (especially in Canada and in the academic world) then consider the 6-month-long heavy workload of the program via distance at The University of Saskatchewan. It is considered on par with the CELTA in terms of getting you the certification needed to teach ESL in that country. It looks like it covers almost as much as some master's programs, but it's only considered to be an advanced certificate. I've been tempted in the past to take it. It seems to be thorough. |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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butter808fly wrote: |
Hey, that sounds like a good sound course that you are getting a lot of information from. I didnt know that these TEFL courses also give some of the fundamental basics of English that Ive forgotten! Im curious though, the 'on land' courses are internationally recognized and accreditated. What about the online course youre are taking? |
I wondered the same thing, and I researched the accredidations of the companies. So did EFL-Law.
You might find it interesting to know that there is NO RECOGNIZED INTERNATIONAL ACCREDITING BODY for TEFL/TESL/TESOL certification.
As stated in EFL-LAW: http://www.efl-law.com/Tesol_Certificates.html
" There is no world Accrediting Authority to say which TESOL/TEFL course is good or bad. The British Council is a defacto accrediting authority.
ANYONE can open a web site and offer a TESOL CERTIFICATE course - some apparent legitimate courses are operating out of Russia for example."
The link provides a lot more useful information about these certificates, and you can view the link without having to be a member of the site (membership is free, anyway).
The "accredidations" listed on the pages of the certificates -- even the CELTA -- are not really what I'd call legitimate at all, in my opinion. As EFL-Law states, the CELTA's accrediting council -- the British Council -- is a DE FACTO crediting authority. In case you don't know what that means (I didn't), it is defined on dictionary.com as "Exercising power or serving a function without being legally or officially established "
And this seems to be the direction EFL-Law goes with it. Basically, after some research, I found that these "accrediting companies" are more like clubs that these different certification programs form together. Everyone joins in, pays a fee perhaps, and POOF! Instant accredidation for all members!
So even the CELTA, the most recognized and touted TESL/TEFL certification (at least around here) is accredited by an authority with no official or legal status.
Accredidation in the TEFL/TESL is not a viable thing at this point.
That's why EFL-Law also says that you should check with the institution you wish to attend to find out what THEY require. I did. My on-line course satisfies their requirement, so I went with that (until I need more -- if I need more later). |
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astroboyfan

Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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I was going to take that one, but sending my money to foreign country Latvia sp?) seemed a bit doggy, so I am taking this one. It is a bit more, but the bank was in Canada
http://www.canadian-englishcenter.com/ |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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astroboyfan wrote: |
I was going to take that one, but sending my money to foreign country Latvia sp?) seemed a bit doggy, so I am taking this one. It is a bit more, but the bank was in Canada
http://www.canadian-englishcenter.com/ |
You must be thinking of another site.
This company uses a pay company based in Columbus, Ohio.
Anyway, I've had no problems so far. |
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deessell

Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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I must say that when I was studying for my CELTA there was no way that I had enough time to be writing so much on Daves ESL cafe.......get back to work!!!!! |
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astroboyfan

Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Gollum wrote: |
astroboyfan wrote: |
I was going to take that one, but sending my money to foreign country Latvia sp?) seemed a bit doggy, so I am taking this one. It is a bit more, but the bank was in Canada
http://www.canadian-englishcenter.com/ |
You must be thinking of another site.
This company uses a pay company based in Columbus, Ohio.
Anyway, I've had no problems so far. |
Maybe so, my course is only 9 lessons. but counts as a 100hr course.. |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:59 am Post subject: |
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astroboyfan wrote: |
Gollum wrote: |
astroboyfan wrote: |
I was going to take that one, but sending my money to foreign country Latvia sp?) seemed a bit doggy, so I am taking this one. It is a bit more, but the bank was in Canada
http://www.canadian-englishcenter.com/ |
You must be thinking of another site.
This company uses a pay company based in Columbus, Ohio.
Anyway, I've had no problems so far. |
Maybe so, my course is only 9 lessons. but counts as a 100hr course.. |
Astroboy, I called that course, and was interested. After further inquiry, they were willing to put whatever hours I wanted on that certificate for the same amount of work. Seriously, I gave it some thought, but decided I should have course proof to back it up. I also read this quote on EFL-Law which said:
http://www.efl-law.com/Tesol_Certificates.html
"e) One TESOL course operating out of Canada will, once you pay the fee, issue you a certificate that says what YOU WANT it to say."
I guess I decided against that course because it screamed "certificate mill" at me in a big way. Also, the course is more than twice what my current course costs.
As for "pros", that course was attractive in that the certificate seemed more "legit" looking just because it comes from a North American country. But my fear is that in the future the place might get a big fat "degree mill" notation by some future Korean office that checks such things.
Who knows. Just my 2 cents. |
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