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Moving up in the world: Refrigerator for kitchen garbage

 
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charlieDD



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Moving up in the world: Refrigerator for kitchen garbage Reply with quote

Well, you know you've made it when you get that elusive kitchen appliance - - the garbage refrigerator.

Yep, saw this in Lotte the other day. It's a small refrigerating unit dedicated to those little bags that hold kitchen / food wastes. Has a small basket inside that is exactly the size of those food bags.

Keeps the garbage from stinking up the kitchen.

Price I think was something like 260,000 Won.

Kind of cool actually; weren't for the waste of electricity / energy . . . . and the perennial problem of not enough outlets in Korean homes (like, where are you going plug it in ?!) and similar lack of countertop space, or even kitchen space, . . . might even consider it myself!

Hmm, probably just the right size for a couple of beers. Smile
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would bet this is actually a kimchi refrigerator, designed to let you store kimchi without the smell affecting other foods.

If you consider kimchi to be food waste, that's another matter. (I don't.)
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antoniothegreat



Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woland wrote:
I would bet this is actually a kimchi refrigerator, designed to let you store kimchi without the smell affecting other foods.

If you consider kimchi to be food waste, that's another matter. (I don't.)


just remember, kimchi saves lives...
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. It took a bullet for me the other day.
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charlieDD



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woland wrote:
I would bet this is actually a kimchi refrigerator, designed to let you store kimchi without the smell affecting other foods.

If you consider kimchi to be food waste, that's another matter. (I don't.)


Nope, it's a garbage refrigerator; says so right on the appliance.

Probably not a great leap from a kimchi fridge to this, technologically.
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

charlieDD wrote:
Nope, it's a garbage refrigerator; says so right on the appliance.

Probably not a great leap from a kimchi fridge to this, technologically.


Nope, probably not.
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Novernae



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We started keeping the compost in the fridge in a Lock'n'Lock this year. Makes quite a difference in the kitchen smell. Better on energy than it's own fridge and the Lock'n'Lock keeps the smell in, too!
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A food-waste refrigerator? Better be a freezer. And oh great, just what the typically cramped, outlet-deprived Korean home needs -- yet another thing to plug in. Garbage refrigerator, kimchee refrigerator, refrigerator refrigerator... Yeah, there's always room for more. Always.

RULES FOR DISPOSING OF FOOD WASTE IN KOREA

1. Remove all moisture (ALL of it)

2. Remove anything that cannot be eaten by livestock (Livestock do not eat coffee grounds or teabags or bones or parts of other animals, nor do they want fruit seeds or pits, or your smelly disgusting leftovers. Livestock want hay and grass and oats and fresh greens.)

3. Use only regulation bags for disposal

NOW FOLLOW THE DAMN RULES.

Say "Goodbye!" to Garbage!
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good place for a Frenchman to keep his twin babies!
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ursus_rex



Joined: 20 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, not a bad idea. As a matter of fact, we put our food waste in the freezing compartment of our refridgerator. It's seperated as it ought to be, and doesn't stink in the interim. Don't think a freezer dedicated to it is necessary, though.
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Novernae



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:

RULES FOR DISPOSING OF FOOD WASTE IN KOREA

1. Remove all moisture (ALL of it)

2. Remove anything that cannot be eaten by livestock (Livestock do not eat coffee grounds or teabags or bones or parts of other animals, nor do they want fruit seeds or pits, or your smelly disgusting leftovers. Livestock want hay and grass and oats and fresh greens.)

3. Use only regulation bags for disposal


So the compost is not actually compost, it's animal feed? We can only put about a tenth of our food waste in the food waste bag? Where did you find these regulations (out of curiosity), unless I'm missing the sarcasm...
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Novernae wrote:
So the compost is not actually compost, it's animal feed? We can only put about a tenth of our food waste in the food waste bag? Where did you find these regulations (out of curiosity), unless I'm missing the sarcasm...


Quote:
Garbage Disposal in Korea

Korea uses a system called "jongnyangje" for the effective collection of garbage wastes and the reuse of natural resources.
All garbage you produce must be disposed of properly, and you may be fined otherwise. Garbage must be separated according to whether it is "common garbage" (ilban sseuregi), food waste (eumsikmul sseuregi), recyclable (jaehwal yongpum), and large waste objects (daehyeong pyegimul).
Ask your neighbors, your city or neighborhood government authorities, or the management office in your apartment complex about disposal days and proper methods of disposal.

Purchasing Garbage Bags

In cities, regulation garbage bags may be purchased at supermarkets or convenience stores in your neighborhood. In rural areas they may be purchased at the local government offices or through the local women's association (bunyeohoe). There are generally six or seven sizes; 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, and 100 liters, and prices vary according to size.

Disposal Procedures

(1) Common Garbage
Use regulation bags and place outside. Ask the building owner or a neighbor about where to place them. If you don't use regulation bags, your garbage will not be collected.

(2) Food Waste
Remove all moisture and anything that cannot be eaten by livestock, then use a regulation bag for disposal. In areas where there are collection boxes dedicated for food waste disposal, you do not need to use regulation bags. Food waste produced by families and restaurants have high moisture levels, making incineration difficult, and the moisture continues to seep out in the landfill, which in turn pollutes water resources.


(3) Recyclable Items
Materials that are recyclable such as plastic, cans, bottles, and paper should be put in a clear plastic bag or even a sandbag-like bag and put in the appropriate spot on collection day. Spray cans, cooking-gas cans, and other such things can explode, so put a hole in these to make sure they are completely empty.

Paper: Tie newspapers, calendars, magazines, or notebooks in 30 cm bundles. (Ensure cartons are cleaned before disposing of them.)
Glass: Wine, soft drink and medicine bottles must be cleaned before disposing of them.
Scrap iron: Metal chairs, albata (German silver), stainless steel, etc. should be collected separately.
Cans: Beer, soft drink and powdered milk cans should be compressed before disposing of them.
Plastics: Detergent and shampoo containers should be disposed of only after they have been rinsed with water

(4) Large Waste Objects
Televisions, washing machines, other home electronics and large items of garbage that cannot be placed in bags should be placed in the collection spot after attaching a sticker purchased at your local dong office or where you purchase your regulation bags.

Fees (unit : won)
- Refrigerator: 4,000 ~ 8,000
- Television: 3,000 ~ 5,000
- Washing machine: 3,000
- Closet: 10,000 ~ 15,000
- Desk: 4,000 ~ 7,000
- Piano: 15,000

Source: Daejeon Metropolitan City Government Website
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you throw out your rubbish everyday?
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Novernae



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't throw it away every day because it's silly to throw away a bag with one or two things in it. It takes us a week to get enough food waste to fill the small bags. And according to the info Jongno Guru gave, most of what I throw away isn't acceptable anyway. Sad So you just throw most of your food waste into the regular garbage bags? Besides, I don't think it's a really good thing to feed animals other animals. Too bad they don't compost. I wonder if it's any different in Seoul?
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