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For the decent Korean Speakers Here, How often do THEY diss
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For the decent Korean Speakers Here, How often per day do you hear something negative being spoken about you or about westerners in general-in Korean and as a result of your presence?
Never
25%
 25%  [ 8 ]
1-2
21%
 21%  [ 7 ]
3-4
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
5+
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
10+
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Too many times to count
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
I stopped counting because it was making my ears bleed
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
So infrequently that I am amused by the amount of stress people who try to live here without learning the language experience
46%
 46%  [ 15 ]
Total Votes : 32

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Fredbob



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Yongin-Breathing the air-sometimes

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: For the decent Korean Speakers Here, How often do THEY diss Reply with quote

For the decent Korean Speakers Here, How often per day do you hear something negative being spoken about you or about westerners in general-in Korean and as a result of your presence?

For example
I'm not talking about walking into a group of people talking about the latest esl teacher "scandal", I mean instances where you walk in/by and suddenly the topic shifts to the "scandal" (or whatever) because of your presence and the fact that they assume you can't understand Korean.

I'm being an optimist by hoping that it's not as often as I think.

I'm thinking this question will help individuals who are going around projecting their negativity or self-loathing on other because they can't or won't try to learn the language and go into a paranoid phase.
Hopefully a little reality check.

My Korean is nowhere good enough yet for me to answer this poll.
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ronnie



Joined: 04 Jun 2006
Location: Wisteria Lane

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the time, i hear "them" talk about how nice my arse is...or how "they" as in (the others) want to pet my monkey.

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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know how decent I am, but we have to choose between 'never' and
'1-2 times per day?' Make that maybe several times a year tops.
- oops, didn't see the last option. I change my vote to that one.
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Fredbob



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Yongin-Breathing the air-sometimes

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sincerely wish the was a way to chart this as it gets later in the evening, maybe even add a breathalyzer reading. This post is at 9:49pm Thurs Korea Time, just in case I get really, really bored and want to try to learn Korean based Excel.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comes in waves as per the ups and downs of anti-whitey sentiment in Korea. At times it's mostly good stuff I hear. At times it's mostly bad. I hear neither every day but I don't get out much.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_beaver wrote:
Comes in waves as per the ups and downs of anti-whitey sentiment in Korea. At times it's mostly good stuff I hear. At times it's mostly bad. I hear neither every day but I don't get out much.


Just out of interest, what kind of good stuff do you randomly heear? I'm still Korean clueless (but trying to rectify that) and am trying to deprogram myself from getting my hair up every time I hear the word wayguk.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine isn't good enough but I'm not paranoid about it.
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cheem



Joined: 18 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heck, they diss Westerners to me in English.

A bit off topic but I've had far more Westerners diss other Westerners to me than Koreans.
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Fredbob



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Yongin-Breathing the air-sometimes

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to add the options,

I can't really understand, but I hear waygook a lot and I generally assume it's negative.

And


I can't really understand, but I hear waygook a lot and I generally assume they are saying how handsome/pretty I am or something positive.

And

What does waygook mean?

But I don't know how to edit to add options, this my first poll.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it weird how waygook is such an easy word to pick out of a conversation? I could be sitting there not even listening to a conversation five feet away, but if they say that word my ears definitely pick it up. I wish I could hear all Korean words as clearly as that one.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I frequently hear, "foreigner, if you keep talkin like a b_tch Ima smack you like a b_tch." Hub of Asia my ass.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
Just out of interest, what kind of good stuff do you randomly heear? I'm still Korean clueless (but trying to rectify that) and am trying to deprogram myself from getting my hair up every time I hear the word wayguk.


All over the place. Lots of random short sentences.
He's handsome.
He looks cool.
Does he smell? I can't smell anything. Smell again.
Why are there foreigners in the country? They should go home.
He's a teacher.
Blonde (gold) hair.
What's he reading?

And an awful lot of conversations about foreign travel and foreigners met and known and things on the news last night (both good and bad and ambivalent) about foreigners in Korea or Americans in America.

On the whole it's like I said before, different waves of anti-foreign sentiment hit Korea on a regular basis and those are suckey times. The rest of the time the comments run from silly to flattering. In normal times I'd say that better than 9 times out 10 when I hear 외국인 or 외국사람 or just good old 외국 nothing bad is being said. Of course, I'm judging this from my subway rides. I'm sure that if you went to different areas at different times of day you'd hear different things.
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Lizara



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheem wrote:

A bit off topic but I've had far more Westerners diss other Westerners to me than Koreans.


heh... me too. But then I hang around the foreign message boards, and not the Korean ones.

My Korean isn't super-stellar but it's good enough to often pick up the gist of what people are saying... and I rarely hear people talking about me, or foreigners, at all, good or bad.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't believe the beav and lizara. We are indeed the center of nearly all Korean conversations. If we weren't here, this country would have no topics of conversation at all. It would be silent. Well, except for the vegetable truck racket.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On Lee's Cafe recently, I saw a thread and poll that asked "for those of you who speak good English, what do you hear foreigners saying about Korea?"

Among the answers was "this the most racist, xenophobic country on earth" (despite that that itself is a sweeping, xenophobic comment); "Korean girls are so overrated - all that make-up and eyelid surgery"; "let's face it - if it wasn't for the money, we wouldn't be here" and the best one was:

1. "the air pollution in Seoul is terrible"

2. "Where are you from?"

1. "LA"
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