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doggyji

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lastat06513
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Not bad- it could've been worse.
Which brings me to a proverb someone said to me once and I know everyone has heard it; opinions are like arses, everyone has one.
But frankly, I could give a rats tart arze what they think.... |
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doggyji

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: |
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I think it's not a bad idea to take a look at some foreign people's perspectives towards them. Especially for those who don't have much chance to interact with non-Koreans. The randomness has both good and bad, of course. You see, some people find "Korea No. 1" mentioned in that thread pretty funny.  |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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From what I have seen while I was in Korea, it wasn't that many Korean people COULDN'T interact with foreigners, it was that many of them chose NOT TO interact with them.
From what I saw, the older generation didn't know enough English to speak to the average foreigner and alot of young people chose not to speak to foreigners because it was seen as uncool and in some ways as being a traitor and yet some of them are actually the ones who wrote all the crap on NAVER and DAUM about how bad foreigners are.
Don't get me wrong, there are alot of really good people in Korea (my old landlady for one), but like the way Koreans think, it could take only one really bad experience to make a person think negatively.
Remember; it only takes a few bad apples to spoil a bushel.... |
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kigolo1881

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| i wish i could read some of those quotes. |
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dogbert

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| It's always fun to go onto sites like that and toss it right back at them. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it's great that they get to see different perspectives... and it'd be cool if we could read their's and get some from their side as well. |
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billybrobby

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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From what I have seen while I was in Korea, it wasn't that many Korean people COULDN'T interact with foreigners, it was that many of them chose NOT TO interact with them.
From what I saw, the older generation didn't know enough English to speak to the average foreigner and alot of young people chose not to speak to foreigners because it was seen as uncool and in some ways as being a traitor and yet some of them are actually the ones who wrote all the crap on NAVER and DAUM about how bad foreigners are.
Don't get me wrong, there are alot of really good people in Korea (my old landlady for one), but like the way Koreans think, it could take only one really bad experience to make a person think negatively.
Remember; it only takes a few bad apples to spoil a bushel.... |
I don't know where this is coming from. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| lastat06513 wrote: |
From what I have seen while I was in Korea, it wasn't that many Korean people COULDN'T interact with foreigners, it was that many of them chose NOT TO interact with them.
From what I saw, the older generation didn't know enough English to speak to the average foreigner and alot of young people chose not to speak to foreigners because it was seen as uncool and in some ways as being a traitor and yet some of them are actually the ones who wrote all the crap on NAVER and DAUM about how bad foreigners are.
Don't get me wrong, there are alot of really good people in Korea (my old landlady for one), but like the way Koreans think, it could take only one really bad experience to make a person think negatively.
Remember; it only takes a few bad apples to spoil a bushel.... |
I don't know where this is coming from. |
I got an email from President Roh that says he hates you. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Doggyji what is this construction?
괜찮을꺼야.
It's the same as 괜찮을거야? |
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doggyji

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| lastat06513 wrote: |
From what I have seen while I was in Korea, it wasn't that many Korean people COULDN'T interact with foreigners, it was that many of them chose NOT TO interact with them.
From what I saw, the older generation didn't know enough English to speak to the average foreigner and alot of young people chose not to speak to foreigners because it was seen as uncool and in some ways as being a traitor and yet some of them are actually the ones who wrote all the crap on NAVER and DAUM about how bad foreigners are. |
Well, I don't get it. So you think many Koreans in Korea consciously chose not to interact with foreigners? Hmm.. It's not like Koreans are supposed to go seek a foreigner on the street and ask "would you be my friend and can we talk about this and that?" You know, it's not one of their main goals of life. I think it happens on a very limited occasion unless you have a special interest in talking to foreign people and particularly go for it. I don't often see Canadians go out of their way to make friends with foreign immigrants who don't speak English decently and don't have much common ground.
"some of them are actually the ones who wrote all the crap on NAVER and DAUM about how bad foreigners are."
It might be true. But some of them(maybe your Korean friends) are also the ones who know it's crap and toss it back. I think this "bad foreigner" issue is one of those that have already passed a certain critical point, which means you get more diverse views when they are sick of the same old rhetotics. Like 10 years ago when the use of internet for discussions was limited to some "elites" and grown-ups who used 하이텔 or 천리안, it was pretty decent. Maybe in another decade, you will see a different phase.
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| I think it's great that they get to see different perspectives... and it'd be cool if we could read their's and get some from their side as well. |
Yeah, I even hope somebody will make a somehow working Korean-English machine translation message board like "enjoyjapan.naver.com" which is for Koreans and Japanese, even if Enjoyjapan has shown lots of side effects. |
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doggyji

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
Doggyji what is this construction?
괜찮을꺼야.
It's the same as 괜찮을거야? |
Yep, the same thing. 괜찮을거야 is the standard expression of course. But when you speak it, 거 sounds more like 꺼. |
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