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Poll: More Americans blame Bush for 9/11
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Pligganease



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Location: The deep south...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:13 am    Post subject: Poll: More Americans blame Bush for 9/11 Reply with quote

Poll: More Americans blame Bush for 9/11

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington has risen from almost a third to almost half over the past four years, a CNN poll released Monday found.

Asked whether they blame the Bush administration for the attacks, 45 percent said either a "great deal" or a "moderate amount," up from 32 percent in a June 2002 CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

But the Clinton administration did not get off lightly either. The latest poll, conducted by Opinion Research Corporation for CNN, found that 41 percent of respondents blamed his administration a "great deal" or a "moderate amount" for the attacks.

That's only slightly less than the 45 percent who blamed his administration in a poll carried out less than a week after the attacks.

Still, most Americans appear to be fatalistic, with more than half -- 57 percent -- saying they think that terrorists will "always find a way to launch attacks no matter what the U.S. government does."

The poll was carried out August 30 through September 2 by Opinion Research Corp. with 1,004 American adults questioned by telephone. The sampling error for the questions was 3 percentage points.

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How can people blame Bush for these attacks when the attacks were planned and conceived before he was even elected? Most of the players in 9/11 were already in the US before he was elected!

I don't really like Bush, but this is a skewed headline with skewed results made to show what CNN wants it to show. What a joke. CNN should change its name to "Reuters."
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is REAL weird!

I thought then and now that Bush was a moron post 9-11. But prior to 9-11, he had the benefit of the doubt going.

Blaming him for 9-11 is a REAL big stretch however.
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seoulshock



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's like blaming a girl for being raped because she was wearing a mini-skirt.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Poll: More Americans blame Bush for 9/11 Reply with quote

Pligganease wrote:


I don't really like Bush, but this is a skewed headline with skewed results made to show what CNN wants it to show. What a joke. CNN should change its name to "Reuters."


There are two people who think Reuters is biased:

1. you
2. good ol' Derrek.
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W.T.Carl



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuters isn't biased? Gee, what about those pictures form Lebanon?
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one dude who fooled around with photoshop=the entire reuters organization. interesting.
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freethought



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calling Reuters biased is a joke. Fox news is Biased, Reuters doesn't even come close.

As for blaming the Bush admin, there's reason to do that. The 9/11 commission report, Richard Clarke, COndi and many other sources have reported, concluded or confirmed that they changed their Mid-east focus from what the Clinton Admin focussed on. Clinton's top priority in that sphere was bin Laden. Bush's wasn't. That's not to say that it was stoppable had they continued the focus, but it's a legit point to raise. When you add to that the boondogle that is Iraq, the failure/abandonment of Afghanistan, North Korea, Iran, a sluggish economy, failure of most key domestic policies, Katrina/New Orleans etc, and I think people are more likely to have a negative view of the president and that is to be expect, and to be honest, accepted. If you have a negative view you are more likely to place blame. And, based on Iraq alone with the 'intelligence' failures, people are more likely to blame this administration. The question "if they screwed up Iraq so badly, couldn't they have screwed up bin Laden and 9/11?" isn't that much of a stretch. Watch Cheney on meet the press from this weekend. He comes across worse than ever before. He's either lying his ass off, or totally detached from reality--- most likely a combo of the two. When you watch that you're more likely to blame them for 9/11.

In short, polls are rarely rational and are almost always a productive of the times, something to keep in mind when reading them.
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

W.T.Carl wrote:
Reuters isn't biased? Gee, what about those pictures form Lebanon?

Moonbat!!
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"(I)f Mike (Ruppert) hadn�t struck awfully close to home with his evidence and theories, why would anyone bother penetrating his organization, smash his computers and drive him from the country?" � MK]

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/091106_smoking_gun5.shtml
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
"(I)f Mike (Ruppert) hadn�t struck awfully close to home with his evidence and theories, why would anyone bother penetrating his organization, smash his computers and drive him from the country?" � MK]

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/091106_smoking_gun5.shtml


Moonbat!!
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Poll: More Americans blame Bush for 9/11 Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
Pligganease wrote:


I don't really like Bush, but this is a skewed headline with skewed results made to show what CNN wants it to show. What a joke. CNN should change its name to "Reuters."


There are two people who think Reuters is biased:

1. you
2. good ol' Derrek.


Study: Reuters Headlines

SUMMARY:

In the world of Reuters headlines, when Israel acts, Israel is always perpetrating an active assault, and the Palestinian victim is consistently identified. But when Palestinian terrorists act, their Israeli victims are faceless, and the Palestinian perpetrators are rarely named nor described in active terms. Moreover, Palestinian diplomats pursue peace, but are frustrated by their obstinate Israeli counterparts.

Reuters' obvious message? Israel is the aggressor, and Palestinians are the victims.

For the past three years, HonestReporting readers have intuitively sensed that Reuters is taking sides in this conflict. HonestReporting's one-month analysis of Reuters' headlines demonstrates that the claim of Reuters' bias is indeed grounded in fact.

In professional journalism, lack of objectivity is the cardinal sin. As one of the world's most broadly syndicated news agencies, Reuters has tremendous influence on Western perception of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict � thereby making its biased stance all the more reprehensible.

But, it isn't just Israel that gets the Reuters shaft...

And this...

Or this...

Or here.

The fact that everyone knows that Fox News is biased is pointless. People only watch Fox News if they already agree with the "no spin" they put on their news. Reuters claims to be a legitimate and fair organization, but it isn't. The fact that more people don't consider Reuters and Reuters journalists to have an agenda shows that people want to believe the spin Reuters puts on news.
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

happeningthang wrote:
some waygug-in wrote:
"(I)f Mike (Ruppert) hadn�t struck awfully close to home with his evidence and theories, why would anyone bother penetrating his organization, smash his computers and drive him from the country?" � MK]

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/091106_smoking_gun5.shtml


Moonbat!!


Holy dueling demagogues Batman! Did you do your Master's in name calling?


And in other news, check out Oberman's latest:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/11/keith-olbermanns-special-commnet-on-bush-who-has-left-this-hole-in-the-ground-we-have-not-forgotten-mr-president-you-have-may-this-country-forgive-you/
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freethought



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

attacking reuters is pathetic, and I mean that in the literal sense. The first thing that's done by people with no facts or arguments to support their position is calling the other position or those they disagree with biased.

Perhaps the lamest thing about your post is the fact that while citing bias you link to no fewer than FOUR conservative(read biased) websites. How about having a discussion on the actual topic of this post? Or rather than citing bias, which is the lamest argument you can make, why not discuss what those articles actually say and how it's 'in correct,' or how it could be improved upon.
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Poll: More Americans blame Bush for 9/11 Reply with quote

[quote="Pligganease"]

Study: Reuters Headlines

Right wing blog

But, it isn't just Israel that gets the Reuters shaft...

Right wing blog

And this...

Right wing blog

Or this...

Right wing blog

Or here.

Right wing blog


Pligganease=hysterical moonbat.
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:


And in other news, check out Oberman's latest:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/11/keith-olbermanns-special-commnet-on-bush-who-has-left-this-hole-in-the-ground-we-have-not-forgotten-mr-president-you-have-may-this-country-forgive-you/


Left wing blog.

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/091106_smoking_gun5.shtml

Left wing blog.

some waygug-in=conspiracy theorist moonbat
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