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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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 Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:53 am Post subject: Soros: Bush acts like Nazi. |
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The war on terror, which does not have an end.. stifles debate, endangers our freedom....
But what about the comparison with Nazi Germany? I perhaps I should have kept those thoughts to myself (because people are freaking STUPID *parenthetical comments mine* ). In fact, what I said in the past on currently is correct: we are in an endless war. The war on terror is the wrong metaphor. We must fight terrorism, but it is wrong to lump all "terror" together. [sic]
What about supporting the Democratic party in '06? You gave 30,000,000 in '04.
That was a special case. I felt that if we could prevent Bush from winning we could avoid the erosion of the our rights and our international standing that has occurred as a result of his winning. [sic] |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Yes Bush has killed 37,000,000 , Gitmo is the same as the Nazi Death camps. Al Qaeda is being persecuted because of their relgion, no difference between them and the jews who died because of Hitler. 
Moonbat. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:24 am Post subject: |
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You are starting yet another of these ranting, rambling threads?
And do you even understand how and why we use "[sic]," you moron? You have not used it in connection with anyone's quotation. And you seem to believe it is used to show disagreement, or something else entirely that is simply unintelligible...
| BLT Lawyer wrote: |
| We must fight terrorism, but it is wrong to lump all "terror" together. [sic] |
WTFAYTA? |
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seoulshock
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I predict "bush fans the flames of war"... part 2.
1) Thread Starter -> 2) Arguments -> 4) Major Pwnage -> 5) Denial -> 6) Go to #4. |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Here we go again. 
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Soros: Bush acts like Nazi. |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| ? I perhaps I should have kept those thoughts to myself ([sic] |
Please do in future. We will all thank you. Consider it a public service. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Yes Bush has killed 37,000,000 , Gitmo is the same as the Nazi Death camps. Al Qaeda is being persecuted because of their relgion, no difference between them and the jews who died because of Hitler.
Moonbat. |
What do you call imposing your own nationalistic social structure unto others? Isn't that a characteristic of social nationalism? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Yes Bush has killed 37,000,000 , Gitmo is the same as the Nazi Death camps. Al Qaeda is being persecuted because of their relgion, no difference between them and the jews who died because of Hitler.
Moonbat. |
What do you call imposing your own nationalistic social structure unto others? Isn't that a characteristic of social nationalism? |
What are you talking about?
Besides the US went into Iraq in order to invade the middle east to force the Bathists , Khomeni lovers and Bin Laden supporters to give up their war and or/to force mideast regimes to take action against them.
Anway having one thing in common does not make something the other thing.
Whales swim in the ocean
Fish swim in the ocean
Are whales fish? |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
You are starting yet another of these ranting, rambling threads?
And do you even understand how and why we use "[sic]," you moron? You have not used it in connection with anyone's quotation. And you seem to believe it is used to show disagreement, or something else entirely that is simply unintelligible...
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| We must fight terrorism, but it is wrong to lump all "terror" together. [sic] |
WTFAYTA? |
You're a punk. I was transcribing as I was listening. There was no way to get it all right and far too much trouble, and frankly impossible, to properly bracket each accurate quote.
Which you already know, you stupid, argumentative little shit. How sad you can only engage in sandbox-worthy insults while not addressing the content of the post in any way, shape, or form. FYI: that's against forum rules.
Once again attempting to hijack a thread you have no way to engage in because you are, sir, an idiot. Tell us, why can't you be bothered to address the issues raised? Ah, that's right: you're a stupid, argumentative little punk.
Back to your sandbox. Take your straw and bailing wire.
That goes for the rest of you, too. Hopefully, an intlligent post will be made eventually.
Joo, congrats on actually addressing an issue... though not THE issue, particularly since he said, as you can see above, that he shouldn't have said that. (That means your response is moot.) |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Yes Bush has killed 37,000,000 , Gitmo is the same as the Nazi Death camps. Al Qaeda is being persecuted because of their relgion, no difference between them and the jews who died because of Hitler.
Moonbat. |
What do you call imposing your own nationalistic social structure unto others? Isn't that a characteristic of social nationalism? |
What are you talking about?
Besides the US went into Iraq in order to invade the middle east to force the Bathists , Khomeni lovers and Bin Laden supporters to give up their war and or/to force mideast regimes to take action against them.
Anway having one thing in common does not make something the other thing.
Whales swim in the ocean
Fish swim in the ocean
Are whales fish? |
Whatever... American democracy and it's social system makes it a socialist country. Now, American nationalism is based on the notion that its social structure is superior to others and that American blood is superior (can you be president if you weren't born in the US?). The view held by the American government is that nobody is free unless one follows an American system of government, and will apparently stop at nothing to make sure it happens. All of this appears to make the US a nationalist social country (well, except for the fact that Nazi government owned the German corporations, whereas American corporations own the American government). It's not much of a stretch. Nazi ideology and American nationalism (and its foreign policy) were both based on Social Darwinism.
PS. I'm not anti-American. Just playing the devil's advocate. |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Yes Bush has killed 37,000,000 , Gitmo is the same as the Nazi Death camps. Al Qaeda is being persecuted because of their relgion, no difference between them and the jews who died because of Hitler.
Moonbat. |
What do you call imposing your own nationalistic social structure unto others? Isn't that a characteristic of social nationalism? |
What are you talking about?
Besides the US went into Iraq in order to invade the middle east to force the Bathists , Khomeni lovers and Bin Laden supporters to give up their war and or/to force mideast regimes to take action against them.
Anway having one thing in common does not make something the other thing.
Whales swim in the ocean
Fish swim in the ocean
Are whales fish? |
Whatever... American democracy and it's social system makes it a socialist country. Now, American nationalism is based on the notion that its social structure is superior to others and that American blood is superior (can you be president if you weren't born in the US?). The view held by the American government is that nobody is free unless one follows an American system of government, and will apparently stop at nothing to make sure it happens. All of this appears to make the US a nationalist social country (well, except for the fact that Nazi government owned the German corporations, whereas American corporations own the American government). It's not much of a stretch. Nazi ideology and American nationalism (and its foreign policy) were both based on Social Darwinism.
PS. I'm not anti-American. Just playing the devil's advocate. |
Every nation on Earth requires that it's leader be born in that nation. Not only does it make sense, but allowing the foreign born to be your leader makes for the possibility of a covert take over. |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Yes Bush has killed 37,000,000 , Gitmo is the same as the Nazi Death camps. Al Qaeda is being persecuted because of their relgion, no difference between them and the jews who died because of Hitler.
Moonbat. |
What do you call imposing your own nationalistic social structure unto others? Isn't that a characteristic of social nationalism? |
What are you talking about?
Besides the US went into Iraq in order to invade the middle east to force the Bathists , Khomeni lovers and Bin Laden supporters to give up their war and or/to force mideast regimes to take action against them.
Anway having one thing in common does not make something the other thing.
Whales swim in the ocean
Fish swim in the ocean
Are whales fish? |
Whatever... American democracy and it's social system makes it a socialist country. Now, American nationalism is based on the notion that its social structure is superior to others and that American blood is superior (can you be president if you weren't born in the US?). The view held by the American government is that nobody is free unless one follows an American system of government, and will apparently stop at nothing to make sure it happens. All of this appears to make the US a nationalist social country (well, except for the fact that Nazi government owned the German corporations, whereas American corporations own the American government). It's not much of a stretch. Nazi ideology and American nationalism (and its foreign policy) were both based on Social Darwinism.
PS. I'm not anti-American. Just playing the devil's advocate. |
Also your wrong about the US considering our system the only free system. Our allies have different, albeit similiar systems, but different and they are considered free nations. But in places like North Korea, freedom is merely something to dream about. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Every nation on Earth requires that it's leader be born in that nation. |
What the hell are you talking about?
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John Turner, PC, CC, QC, MA, BCL, LLD (born June 7, 1929) was the seventeenth Prime Minister of Canada from June 30, 1984 to September 17, 1984. He is the oldest living former Prime Minister. According to Canadian protocol, as a former Prime Minister, he is styled "The Right Honourable" for life.
Early life
He was born in Richmond, Surrey, England to Leonard Turner and Phyllis Gregory, and emigrated to Canada as a baby in 1932. Turner was the first PM since Mackenzie Bowell to not be Canadian-born. He was educated at the University of British Columbia (B.A. Honours), Oxford University, (Rhodes Scholar, B.A., Bachelor of Civil Law), and the University of Paris (the Sorbonne). In 1948, he qualified for Canada's Olympic team as a sprinter, but could not compete because of an injury.
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| Hendrik Frensch Verwoerd (Amsterdam, 8 September 1901 � Cape Town, 6 September 1966) was Prime Minister of South Africa from 1958 until his assassination in 1966. Unlike his predecessors, Verwoerd was not born in South Africa, but immigrated at age two with his parents from the Netherlands. |
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Richard John Seddon (1845 - 1906), sometimes known as King Dick, was the longest serving Prime Minister of New Zealand. He is regarded by some as New Zealand's greatest political leader.
Early life
Seddon was born in Eccleston near St Helens in Lancashire in 1845.
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Sir Walter Nash, GCMG (12 February 1882 - 4 June 1968) served as Prime Minister of New Zealand from 1957 to 1960, and was also highly influential in his role as Minister of Finance. He is noted for his long period of service, having been associated with the Labour Party since its creation. Many also associate him with the gradual shift of the Labour Party away from its original socialism.
Early life
Nash was born in Kidderminster, a town in the English county of Worcestershire. He was born into a poor family, and his father was an alcoholic. Nash performed well at school, and won a scholarship to King Charles I Grammar School, but additional costs associated with attending prevented him from accepting. Nash began employment as a clerk, initially with a lawyer in Kidderminster and then at a factory near Birmingham.
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All quotes from Wikipedia.
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Now, American nationalism is based on the notion that its social structure is superior to others and that American blood is superior (can you be president if you weren't born in the US?). |
I don't think the "born on the soil" rule for presidents is related to blood nationalism, or else they would have regulated it according to ancestry, not place of birth. I seem to remember reading that the rule had something to do with fears that foreign powers could take over the American political system by swamping it with unassimilated immigrants. But I can't recall for sure.
In any event, I agree that the rule makes no sense whatsoever at this point in history. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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navfc wrote:
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| Every nation on Earth requires that it's leader be born in that nation. |
What the hell are you talking about?
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John Turner, PC, CC, QC, MA, BCL, LLD (born June 7, 1929) was the seventeenth Prime Minister of Canada from June 30, 1984 to September 17, 1984. He is the oldest living former Prime Minister. According to Canadian protocol, as a former Prime Minister, he is styled "The Right Honourable" for life.
Early life
He was born in Richmond, Surrey, England to Leonard Turner and Phyllis Gregory, and emigrated to Canada as a baby in 1932. Turner was the first PM since Mackenzie Bowell to not be Canadian-born. He was educated at the University of British Columbia (B.A. Honours), Oxford University, (Rhodes Scholar, B.A., Bachelor of Civil Law), and the University of Paris (the Sorbonne). In 1948, he qualified for Canada's Olympic team as a sprinter, but could not compete because of an injury.
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| Hendrik Frensch Verwoerd (Amsterdam, 8 September 1901 � Cape Town, 6 September 1966) was Prime Minister of South Africa from 1958 until his assassination in 1966. Unlike his predecessors, Verwoerd was not born in South Africa, but immigrated at age two with his parents from the Netherlands. |
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Richard John Seddon (1845 - 1906), sometimes known as King *beep*, was the longest serving Prime Minister of New Zealand. He is regarded by some as New Zealand's greatest political leader.
Early life
Seddon was born in Eccleston near St Helens in Lancashire in 1845.
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Sir Walter Nash, GCMG (12 February 1882 - 4 June 1968) served as Prime Minister of New Zealand from 1957 to 1960, and was also highly influential in his role as Minister of Finance. He is noted for his long period of service, having been associated with the Labour Party since its creation. Many also associate him with the gradual shift of the Labour Party away from its original socialism.
Early life
Nash was born in Kidderminster, a town in the English county of Worcestershire. He was born into a poor family, and his father was an alcoholic. Nash performed well at school, and won a scholarship to King Charles I Grammar School, but additional costs associated with attending prevented him from accepting. Nash began employment as a clerk, initially with a lawyer in Kidderminster and then at a factory near Birmingham.
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All quotes from Wikipedia. |
Don't forget Bonar Law, the 'forgotten' British Premier (1922 to 1923).
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| "Of Ulster Scots and Scottish descent, Andrew Bonar Law was born in Rexton, a small village in eastern New Brunswick, Canada. He was the son of the Reverend James Law and Elizabeth Kidston." |
and John A. McDonald.
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"Sir John Alexander Macdonald, GCB, KCMG, PC, QC, DCL, LL.D (January 11, 1815 � June 6, 1891) was the first Prime Minister of Canada, from July 1, 1867 to November 5, 1873, and also from October 17, 1878 to June 6, 1891.
John Alexander Macdonald was born on January 11, 1815 in Glasgow, Scotland. His parents were Hugh Macdonald, an unsuccessful merchant, and his wife Helen Shaw, who met in Scotland in 1811. After the failure of his father's business ventures, his family emigrated to Kingston, Upper Canada in 1820 along with thousands of others seeking affordable land and promises of new prosperity. Hugh's fortunes were to rise there. John was educated in the area's finest schools." |
(Cough, cough...and Adolf Hitler.)
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| "Adolf Hitler was born on April 20, 1889 at Braunau am Inn, Austria, a small town in Upper Austria, on the border with Germany." |
All from Wikipedia. |
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