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Crystal98



Joined: 18 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Job offer.. Reply with quote

I have just been offered a job in seoul making 3 million won a month with no deductions. My apartment is paid for and I get a month training. I've noticed on job boards that the average salary is between 1.8-2 million won for new teachers, so having a school offer me 3 million to start makes me wonder whether it is a reputable school. Should I be concerned? There are two foreign teachers who have been there for a little over a year who haven't run into any problems yet.[/quote]
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melvaughn



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, that does sound unusal from my research. A teacher at the school where I work went through a recruitor and was told that the average starting price of most hagwons is 1.8m. I believe the average starting price is 2.0w and with more experience/education (masters/phd) possibly 3.0w but even that is rare.
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John Henry



Joined: 24 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who takes 1.8 should be ridiculed by their peers. I'll start.

You can get 2.0 easy. 3.0....Have to wonder if they're just telling you what you want ot hear.

Talk to people that work there.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Job offer.. Reply with quote

Crystal98 wrote:
I have just been offered a job in seoul making 3 million won a month with no deductions. My apartment is paid for and I get a month training. I've noticed on job boards that the average salary is between 1.8-2 million won for new teachers, so having a school offer me 3 million to start makes me wonder whether it is a reputable school. Should I be concerned? There are two foreign teachers who have been there for a little over a year who haven't run into any problems yet.
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You would need to elaborate on what the job entails. Are you teaching classes of 50 in split shifts 6 days a week? teaching businessmen at an academy? What?

melvaughn

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with more experience/education (masters/phd) possibly 3.0w


Professor with PhD? 3.5M for 8 hrs a week. Plus nice appt and lots of paid leave. And many extra bonuses available for publishing papers in journals.
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOTHING is free in Korea. If you're getting 3.0, your Korean boss will make you earn every won..

Good luck!
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3.0......60 hours a week. No prob.
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CDI?
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maryb



Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: up the hill from the kimchi pots

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like CDI to me
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CDI information

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=65510&highlight=CDI
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

melvaughn wrote:
A teacher at the school where I work went through a recruitor and was told that the average starting price of most hagwons is 1.8m. .


Did you tell that teacher that many recruiters lie?

1.8 is crap for more than 20 hours a week. There are jobs that require 5 hours a day for only 3 days a week that will pay that.

One of the great ones some recruiters use is that living in a small town is SO much cheaper than Seoul, like 2.0 in Stickville is equal to 2.5 in Seoul. What nonsense. A few things may be a little cheaper in Stickville, but the difference is not that much.

I'd say 2.0 in Stickville may be like 2.1 in Seoul, but then you cannot purchase certain things in Stickville that you would like, so therefore of course you might spend less and enjoy life less.

Recruiters are often full of crap like that, and a naive foreigner might just buy their crap.
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melvaughn



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that 1.8w is crap and that most newbie teachers should accept no less than 2.0w. I didn't go through a recruiter myself because I don't trust them.
But I'm teaching in Tongyeong city (pop 140 000) very small city and not only do I spend no more than 6000w a day, if that, I'm definitely not enjoying life less than if I were in Seoul. I live across from Jeju, I'm right by the ocean, moutains. The teachers here go scuba diving, climb moutains and hang out at the beach everyday. There are western restaurants here, similar to Seoul and they are dirt cheap. I look out my apartment every morning and I'm surrounded by mountains everywhere. I wouldn't be experiencing this in an overcrowed, city like Seoul. Plus every teacher here rides scooters through the winding roads by the Ocean. It is great. Plus we get royal treatment here from the Koreans, since there are only 12 of us foriegners in the whole city. I've already experienced having money (10,000w) handed to me by men on the street numerous times Laughing And there is a close-knit group of teachers who we do everything with together.
Also I feel I'm really experiencing the culture here. In seoul you can easily forget your even in Korea.
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 mill will probably come with strings attached. Some adult institutes advertise that starting wage, but with split shifts and phenomenal overtime and no housing. You can already automatically deduct at least 500,000 from that sum if you have to find your own housing. Editing jobs can also offer 3 mill or more. An MA in some unis can get you over 3 mill.

Tell us more on the specifics of the job and respondants will be able to offer more pointers.
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely Seedy......I
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's doable, but you will probably work for your won. I say go for it. If they were really seedy they'd probably just underoffer.

I made 3.1 a month for much of my time at Pagoda. I was working 6-8 classes a day plus a class in the weekends.
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Peter Jackson



Joined: 23 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:56 am    Post subject: Stickville Reply with quote

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One of the great ones some recruiters use is that living in a small town is SO much cheaper than Seoul, like 2.0 in Stickville is equal to 2.5 in Seoul. What nonsense. A few things may be a little cheaper in Stickville, but the difference is not that much.

I'd say 2.0 in Stickville may be like 2.1 in Seoul, but then you cannot purchase certain things in Stickville that you would like, so therefore of course you might spend less and enjoy life less.


I concur!

The only thing cheaper in Stickville is rent. Since I don't pay my own rent nothing is cheaper for me. Some things, like food for example, can actually be more expensive as there is no Emart or such place offering better prices.

Examples:

A bowl of galbitang costs 5000 in Stickville and 5000 in Seoul
A bottle of beer at Mom and Pa stores: 2000 in both
Bus: same price
Norae bang: Same price but more common to get "service" time in Stickville.
Groceries: same price or often more
Rice and fruit: just as overpriced as Seoul.

In my experience living in a small town can actually cost more than Seoul, especially as travelling to Seoul in itself can get expensive.
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