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Korean students, what's it all about?

 
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leeroy12



Joined: 01 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 12:33 pm    Post subject: Korean students, what's it all about? Reply with quote

Hey there teachers in Korea

Technically, I don't teach in ROK - but I'm here in London with some Korean students, and thought I could use some insight from those closer to the culture...

My classes have a large mix of nationalities - and while (on the whole) they all get on, the Koreans seem to be by far the least social. Not with each-other you understand, but with other nationalities.

I learnt to stop asking about personal opinions a long time ago, and "how was your weekend?" and all questions of that ilk have long since been relegated to the recycle bin.

(A cynic might even argue that they don't have opinions, and that compared to us westerners they have limited cognitive capacities - outside of stating the fucking obvious and playing with phones.)

So my question is this... Evidently, these guys talk. But the only time they show genuine interest in communication is when they are chatting, at high speed, in Korean (anyong ha se yo!), with each other. What the hell do they talk about? I've never been to Korea, but have mastered "Cho le! Hangu-ma hane. Hanguma Haji-ma!" (spelling's probably completely off, but still, I'm told I have a very realistic Korean accent).

Any ideas on what turns Koreans on as topics of conversation? What are they comfortable communicating about?

PS. Yes, I'm generalising here. They're not all like that!
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sakamuras



Joined: 21 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps they simply don't like the way you look....
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makushi



Joined: 08 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After spending four years in Asia my brother returned to the US to finish his undergrad degree and then went on to graduate school at Thunderbird.

He asked me about this several times...."Why is that whenever we go to a party with Asians, the Chinese are friendly, the Japanese are hip and cool, and the Koreans sooooo stand offish?

IMHO they are deeply insecure and historically suspicious of others, even other Koreans.

One more observation: A Korean friend was travelling in Thailand and chatting with some Europeans. A group of Koreans passed by and started staring at her. On of the men came over to her and said in Korean "don't forget the Korean spirit!"

Freakin strange thing to be a Korean.


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Trinny



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess they are just interested in chatting with each other. They've got to be separated out so there is no other Korean around and they are more open to the British culture. It is a path of least resistance. More work and effort to talk to somebody else in English.
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean students, what's it all about? Reply with quote

leeroy12 wrote:
What the hell do they talk about?

My students talk about ddong alot.. I guess some things are just universal Laughing
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're too afraid/embarrassed to talk about real or personal things, so their conversation is centred around making fun of what they see, or other people. Hence all the silly giggles etc. Its hard to find a good topic to engage them...
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William Beckerson
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Korean students, what's it all about? Reply with quote

leeroy12 wrote:

PS. Yes, I'm generalising here. They're not all like that!


well, at the risk of generalizing myself:

Koreans get told for years that a good boy / girl learns themself some English because if they dont, they will never have a good life and they will die lonely and penniless and lose their mother's love...

And so, like good little kids, they head out to the hagwons and take classes in university and then borrow some money from the folks to head over the English speaking nations where they realize, "WAITASECOND! I dont want to study this damned language at all. All I really want to do is drink and hang with my friends like I couldn't do back home without worrying about getting an ear full. Screw you America!"

I saw it about a decade ago with Japanese students when I started tutoring at the YMCA. When I was in university a few years ago, the Japanese who'd rather be doing what they really want to do got replaced by Koreans.

How can you get Koreans talking?

Assuming these aint kids, take them out to drink. They seem to believe here that booze means "True Friends Always" and they'll start to loosen up and want to talk to you.
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Bubbliee



Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Location: Kelowna, BC Canada

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that WB is right. I have taught several Korean students here in Canada over the past two years and they really do loosen up when you drink with them. I usually don't have much of a problem getting them to loosen up anyway as I find them amazingly social. Once you go drinking with them, watch out! They seem to really open up then and start to really consider you a friend. One thing you should think about though is your tolerance to alcohol. I am an extremely cheap drunk and they have all been dissapointed in me because of it. I always here"oh I am so disapointed, you are so weak!" Then it just becomes the joke with all, to see how fast they can get teacher drunk! Good Luck!
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My uni students really enjoy talking about movies, music, Soccer (footie), Japanese animation & video games.

Cheers,
Harpeau
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