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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: What's with the chicks? Reply with quote

Ok, call me crazy, but who in their right mind would just hand out baby chicks to elementary students, who obviously have no sweet clue how to keep them alive?

One of my students arrived at school today with two baby chicks in a box, apparently given to her at her elementary school by someone outside. The two could BOTH fit in the palm of my hand at the same time. No incubator, no food, no nothing.

I always thought chicks and chickens belonged in the country, not in a bustling area like Seoul.

So what's with this? Is it a fad? Is it common? Is it considered ok to hand animals off to children, knowing full well that they will die in a day or two's time?

Just curious.
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liquidmj



Joined: 25 Sep 2006
Location: Mercer Island, WA

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the chicks either die or are given away to someone who can really raise it, but for the few weeks that the children get to keep it, they do learn some important responsibility skills.
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least they no longer sell them or hamsters in those grab-it machines.... that was a shortlived atrocity back in 2001 (I wish to god I was joking)
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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

casey's moon - you've got to be kidding me - I realize you said you weren't joking, but that's still hard to believe.
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okokok



Joined: 27 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chicks were given to them? Or did they buy them?
I witnessed this at a former school. Some girls came to the hagwon with a chick (or other baby bird, I can't remember). They had bought it from someone selling them on the street. Anyways everyone wanted to hold it, and I remember feeling bad for the chick that was getting manhandled. As one student was grabbing for it, they dropped it on the floor. After class another teacher informed me that a student had dropped the chick out of the fourth floor window.
Sometimes life ain't too precious here.
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulShakin wrote:
casey's moon - you've got to be kidding me - I realize you said you weren't joking, but that's still hard to believe.


I'm not joking, and I hope someone else will back me up. It was short-lived and it was hideous. I saw them on a news program and actually saw one of the hamster ones myself. I have a picture of it, although not sure where. The weirdest part was the fact that the hamsters were still alive, but I couldn't see any evidence of water in the machine.

I hope those machines disappeared because of animal activism or something, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was because the hamsters and chicks were dying and they couldn't generate money from dead animals.

There was also a lobster grab-it machine in our neighbourhood, which was weird -- but somehow didn't seem as cruel.
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a cat.

At least a cat can look after itself if thngs go wrong.
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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it's one of those things I'll have to get used to, though I don't know if that will happen anytime soon...

One of the Korean teachers asked me why I was so angry about the chicks, and I explained that at home, chicks that small are either still with the chicken, or in an incubator with a temperature regulated heat lamp and FOOD.

He said he didn't realize they needed that. (Food? Come on..)
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flint



Joined: 11 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They also used to have live lobsters in the Happy Crane machines too.
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flint wrote:
They also used to have live lobsters in the Happy Crane machines too.

Embarassed
That's what I was talking about -- couldn't remember what those machines were called! Thanks.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From hatching, a chick has enough nutrition to last 1-2 days without eating.

Although they probably last less in the pockets of the average Korean schoolkid.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do baby chickens taste? I'm sure if you get enough of them, you can make soup. Before anyone hates: If they are gonna die regardless, might as well be quick, painless and for a good cause.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

casey's moon wrote:
There was also a lobster grab-it machine in our neighbourhood, which was weird -- but somehow didn't seem as cruel.


I feel sorry for anyone who ate their catch. Or tried to stick it to their refrigerator door.

_*_
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was in first grade all the students had the option of raising two chicks for a week. It was a very interesting experience.

I've seen places in Bundang where they'd sell baby chicks. THere's be huge boxes full of them. They also would sell tiny mice, and tiny rodents that looked and felt like chinchilla, but I'm skeptical about that.

Anyway, I saw these in Migeum and Jeongja. If you go out when school lets out, and take a walk either near the schools or in between the parks near apartment buildings you'll frequently see these little markets that sell snacks, clothes, toys, and sometimes animals.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen them in a long time, but you used to be able to buy strings of dead baby sparrows (I think) at festivals. My friend said they taste good.
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