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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: You goddamn idiot Democrats, quit playing nice already |
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/28/bush.ap/index.html
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| Bush: Democrats the 'party of cut-and-run' |
I mean for *beep*'s sake, what exactly has 5 years of laying down and lubing up your buttholes for Bush ever gotten you? You've had your asses handed to you in every election since. Do you think he and Karl Rove are going to somehow turn into the same spineless nice-guy cowards that you are?
If I were running your campaigns, this would be the first commercial I'd run nationwide:
1. Black background. No sound. Fade in the burning twin towers and cut to Osama's smiling face.
2. Play Bush's speech vowing to find Osama dead or alive.
3. Play Bush's speech 6 months saying he didn't care where Osama was and wasn't interested in catching him.
4. Black background. Text: "George W. Bush doesn't want to catch Osama. Do you?" Next screen: "Vote Democrat."
Kick him in the balls. He's doing the same to you. |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| every time i read the news i'm more and more embarrassed by how gullible my fellow Americans are. |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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It's Newt Gingrich, of all people, who has suggested that the Dems campaign slogan this year should be simply, "Had Enough?"
If they can't come up with stuff like this on their own, do they deserve to win? I'm increasingly frustrated with them. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Just an amateur hypothesis, but I would guess that, given the sheer fumblebuck that the Bush administration has made of everything it touches, any American with the capacity for outrage has already gone over to the Democrats. The remaining GOP loyalists would have to be completely oblivious to the real world in order to continue supporting Bush, so I don't know if having his stupidity and incompetence pointed out yet again is gonna matter to them.
Then again, perhaps there is something more effective about seeing it in a TV ad, such as Hater Depot proposes. But I think Bush will still be able to spin those contradictions. He's already admitted in an interview that his earlier gunslinging rhetoric was a mistake. So he's probably setting the stage to distance himself from that kind of rhetoric anyway. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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OTOH, as an American I understand Hater Depot's immense frustration even while I accede each and every one of your points.
My jingo uncle sent me an article that claimed Clinton was suddenly polarizing what happened on '9-11.' There are two realities in the United States right now. You can use every shred of reason to state why you think George W. Bush is a terrible President, and the response you get from family members is, 'You must think the administration detonated the Towers, that's why you want to negotiate with the terrorists!' |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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umm, let's see,
entering office at the time of the dot-com crash and stock market meltdown, 8 months later the worst attack on America in hostory, followed by two wars that deposed a bunch of facists keen on our destruction (yes, Saddam dreamt of it), followed by the worst natural disaster in American history (Clinton btw, cut funding for LA's levy system, and both the state and local governments were run by corrupt inept democrats)...
and yet, Wall Street is approaching all-time highs, the deficit is rapidly shrinking, unemployment is at 4.5%, the economy is still doing well, and for those intrerested in alternative energies, the production and use of solar energy, wind energy, ethanol and bio-diesels are increasing every year to a record level
oh, and the Taleban are no longer in charge of a nation, Osama is hiding in a cave, and Saddam is in a court of his Iraqi peers... Libya has foresworn WMD's and Abdul Qadeer Khan is non longer plying his wares to the likes of NK, Iran, etc.
What a terrible mess Bush has wrought.... |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Ah yes, I forgot. Everything good is due to Bush and everything bad was entirely and completely out of his hands, and probably is somehow Clinton's fault to boot.
I could make a long list of what you left, but that would take too much and someone else will do it anyway. I advise to change your needle cuz the record's skipping. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| , Wall Street is approaching all-time highs, the deficit is rapidly shrinking, unemployment is at 4.5%, the economy is still doing well |
and it all took was record deficit after record deficit! GO BANKS GO!!!!
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| and for those intrerested in alternative energies, the production and use of solar energy, wind energy, ethanol and bio-diesels are increasing every year to a record level |
Yes, as oil is seen, more and more as an unattractive, drty, and highly polluting fuel, alternate energy is becoming populary.
Oh yeah...and the...what, doulbing of gas prices.
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| oh, and the Taleban are no longer in charge of a nation |
Too bad he was too worried about his politics to FINISH the job in Afghanistan and the Taliban and other insurgents are slowly making a big stink of things again. "Quick, before this war gets old, let's go after Saddam...I mean, why not? He doesn't have ties to 9/11 he isn't a credible threat to national security. What a perfectly LOGICAL decision?
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| What a terrible mess Bush has wrought.... |
What an offkey and cacuphonous song Bush supporters sing. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| and it all took was record deficit after record deficit! GO BANKS GO!!!! |
what was the cause of the deficit. Didn't the recession and the stock market meltdown being before Bush came to office?
Wasn't 9-11 planned before bush came to office
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| Oh yeah...and the...what, doulbing of gas prices. |
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| Too bad he was too worried about his politics to FINISH the job in Afghanistan and the Taliban and other insurgents are slowly making a big stink of things again. "Quick, before this war gets old, let's go after Saddam...I mean, why not? He doesn't have ties to 9/11 he isn't a credible threat to national security. What a perfectly LOGICAL decision |
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YOUR ANSWER.
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Because We Could
Thomas L. Friedman
New York Times Op-Ed Columnist
The failure of the Bush team to produce any weapons of mass destruction (W.M.D.'s) in Iraq is becoming a big, big story. But is it the real story we should be concerned with? No. It was the wrong issue before the war, and it's the wrong issue now.
Why? Because there were actually four reasons for this war: the real reason, the right reason, the moral reason and the stated reason.
The "real reason" for this war, which was never stated, was that after 9/11 America needed to hit someone in the Arab-Muslim world. Afghanistan wasn't enough because a terrorism bubble had built up over there � a bubble that posed a real threat to the open societies of the West and needed to be punctured. This terrorism bubble said that plowing airplanes into the World Trade Center was O.K., having Muslim preachers say it was O.K. was O.K., having state-run newspapers call people who did such things "martyrs" was O.K. and allowing Muslim charities to raise money for such "martyrs" was O.K. Not only was all this seen as O.K., there was a feeling among radical Muslims that suicide bombing would level the balance of power between the Arab world and the West, because we had gone soft and their activists were ready to die.
The only way to puncture that bubble was for American soldiers, men and women, to go into the heart of the Arab-Muslim world, house to house, and make clear that we are ready to kill, and to die, to prevent our open society from being undermined by this terrorism bubble. Smashing Saudi Arabia or Syria would have been fine. But we hit Saddam for one simple reason: because we could, and because he deserved it and because he was right in the heart of that world. And don't believe the nonsense that this had no effect. Every neighboring government � and 98 percent of terrorism is about what governments let happen � got the message. If you talk to U.S. soldiers in Iraq they will tell you this is what the war was about. |
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| What an offkey and cacuphonous song Bush supporters sing. |
It is a tough world Bush had a lot of bad luck He gets a grade of B-.
Clinton would get a grade of B.
Clinton was a better president but only slightly and Bush most of the time done a reasonably good job.
PS I voted for Clinton 2x and Gore 1x. |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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B-??????? What are you smoking and please share!
1. 9/11 - worst attack on american soil in history right under Bushies nose
2. Afghanistan - 5 years on and still not in control of the country.
3. Iraq - Invaded the wrong country (whoops!) and now stuck in Vietnam Redux
4. Gitmo - Torture camps run by the US in Cuba and around the globe American image abroad the lowest its ever been.
5. Katrina - Largest natural disaster in American History (not his fault) compleate government pooch screw (his fault). Heckuva job Brownie!
6. Destruction of the constitution - The Bush Crime Family roles back the centuries old rights of its citizens to "protect" them. Why didn't they have to do this to fight the commies??????
7. Crime Rate on the rise - Under Clinton the violent crime rate dropped to all time lows and the country's cities experienced a relative calm. At first credited to longer jail sentences but more likely due to the economic highs of the 90's economic boom. Under Bush crime is on the rise again with murder becoming endemic in cities like New Orleans, Washington DC, etc
8. Budget Deficits - Taking Clintons 230 billion dollar surplus and turning 180 degrees. Bush is bankrupting America's future. All the while China and India are buying gold, US currency and Bonds setting themselves up for the future.
9. Compleate failure to secure America - Bush has been unable to secure the ports, cargo, the borders, airports, etc. Despite spending billions he still tries to sell the ports to Arabs. Smooth operator!
10. The total polarization of the USA. He and his brain have split the country into either Jesus loving, flag waving yahoo rednecks or terrorist supporting, granola eating, god hating, abortion loving leftist hollywood bombthrowers. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| 1. 9/11 - worst attack on american soil in history right under Bushies nose |
Planned before Bush came to office
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| 2. Afghanistan - 5 years on and still not in control of the country. |
Soviets had trouble to. the US is doing much better
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| 3. Iraq - Invaded the wrong country (whoops!) and now stuck in Vietnam Redux |
Invading the mideast cause the status quo there is what led to 9-11.
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| 4. Gitmo - Torture camps run by the US in Cuba and around the globe American image abroad the lowest its ever been. |
Gitmo torture camp proof? By the way Gitmo prisoners gain lots of weight.
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| 5. Katrina - Largest natural disaster in American History (not his fault) compleate government pooch screw (his fault). Heckuva job Brownie! |
Right and Bush created the storm too.
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| 6. Destruction of the constitution - The Bush Crime Family roles back the centuries old rights of its citizens to "protect" them. Why didn't they have to do this to fight the commies?????? |
]what destruction. Patriot act just gives the govt the same power against terrorists as they already have w/ organized crime.
the commies were a different enemy with different tactics.
Since the Patriot act no attacks on US soil.
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| 7. Crime Rate on the rise - Under Clinton the violent crime rate dropped to all time lows and the country's cities experienced a relative calm. At first credited to longer jail sentences but more likely due to the economic highs of the 90's economic boom. Under Bush crime is on the rise again with murder becoming endemic in cities like New Orleans, Washington DC, etc |
US crime rate not high for a country as complicated as the US. It is lower than it was in the 80's.
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| 8. Budget Deficits - Taking Clintons 230 billion dollar surplus and turning 180 degrees. Bush is bankrupting America's future. All the while China and India are buying gold, US currency and Bonds setting themselves up for the future. |
The recession started before Bush came to office
The stock market meltdown started before Bush came to office. Both mean far less revenue.
9-11 was being planned before Bush came to office.
High oil prices cause China and India use more . Bush at fault for that?
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| 9. Compleate failure to secure America - Bush has been unable to secure the ports, cargo, the borders, airports, etc. Despite spending billions he still tries to sell the ports to Arabs. Smooth operator! |
the US is too big to secure , however if all the Bathists , Khomeni lovers and Bin Laden followers are slaughtered well there won't be much terror any more
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| 10. The total polarization of the USA. He and his brain have split the country into either Jesus loving, flag waving yahoo rednecks or terrorist supporting, granola eating, god hating, abortion loving leftist hollywood bombthrowers |
I dunno I voted for Clinton 2x and Gore once. The Left wing never was pro US anyway, and the same goes for the far right of Pat Buccanan and the rest. 10% of the US is left wing and 5% is the far , far right. They were against the US anyway so they don't count. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Bush has it by the balls, whatever he does...
All because of that particularly American notion of "rally around the commander in chief" in times of crisis. Idiocy and I don't know why they have this gut reflex, this patriotic tic
all Bush has to do is continue to crank out the propaganda of crisis, war, fear, threat. ............ this can't be beat. Nobody will vote him or his henchmen down.
He is a classic example of Goerring's " if you are going to lie, tell a big lie. Everyone will have to believe it."
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Bush has it by the balls, whatever he does...
All because of that particularly American notion of "rally around the commander in chief" in times of crisis. Idiocy and I don't know why they have this gut reflex, this patriotic tic
all Bush has to do is continue to crank out the propaganda of crisis, war, fear, threat. ............ this can't be beat. Nobody will vote him or his henchmen down.
He is a classic example of Goerring's " if you are going to lie, tell a big lie. Everyone will have to believe it."
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9-11 was real. and a wake up call.
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He is a classic example of Goerring's " if you are going to lie, tell a big lie. Everyone will have to believe it." |
If you want to talk about Fascists look the the mideast. Khomeni supporters Bin Laden lovers and Bathists are fascists for real. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| 4. Black background. Text: "George W. Bush doesn't want to catch Osama. Do you?" Next screen: "Vote Democrat." |
The fly in the ointment here is that Bush won't be running again. He's constitutionally finished as of Jan. 20, 2009.
If he were able to run again, I think the Dems might be able to beat him. The trouble is, the Dems will be facing someone new. And as pointed out, they haven't shown much in the way of electoral grit for quite a while now. [/quote] |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
B-??????? What are you smoking and please share!
1. 9/11 - worst attack on american soil in history right under Bushies nose
2. Afghanistan - 5 years on and still not in control of the country.
3. Iraq - Invaded the wrong country (whoops!) and now stuck in Vietnam Redux
4. Gitmo - Torture camps run by the US in Cuba and around the globe American image abroad the lowest its ever been.
5. Katrina - Largest natural disaster in American History (not his fault) compleate government pooch screw (his fault). Heckuva job Brownie!
6. Destruction of the constitution - The Bush Crime Family roles back the centuries old rights of its citizens to "protect" them. Why didn't they have to do this to fight the commies??????
7. Crime Rate on the rise - Under Clinton the violent crime rate dropped to all time lows and the country's cities experienced a relative calm. At first credited to longer jail sentences but more likely due to the economic highs of the 90's economic boom. Under Bush crime is on the rise again with murder becoming endemic in cities like New Orleans, Washington DC, etc
8. Budget Deficits - Taking Clintons 230 billion dollar surplus and turning 180 degrees. Bush is bankrupting America's future. All the while China and India are buying gold, US currency and Bonds setting themselves up for the future.
9. Compleate failure to secure America - Bush has been unable to secure the ports, cargo, the borders, airports, etc. Despite spending billions he still tries to sell the ports to Arabs. Smooth operator!
10. The total polarization of the USA. He and his brain have split the country into either Jesus loving, flag waving yahoo rednecks or terrorist supporting, granola eating, god hating, abortion loving leftist hollywood bombthrowers. |
You did well on Bush bashing. However, given current situation under Bush Administration, if democrat, let say Kerry, was elected to the office, I wonder if they had any different solution. The democrats most likely would have followed the same path. So we can all bitch and whine about what Bush is doing this and that, but I have to give the guy a credit for making tough decisions and sticking with them.
We all have to remember that when 9/11 happened, , both parties, republicans and democrats, joined in the Bush's band wagon of 'War against terror.' Also, given under present terrorists' tactic and strategy, what ever he's doing now is to protect and defend the country from terrorist/foreign aggression which is his most important job and responsibility.
Regarding present Iraq situation, at the time of invasion, Bush and most Americans thought that it was right thing to do. Well, all I can say about that is that '*beep* happens.' If everything worked out as what we planned, we'll be living in a perfect world, but we don't.
The situation now for Bush is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. |
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