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Boudicca

Joined: 12 Dec 2004 Location: Victoria BC
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 7:42 am Post subject: Are western women so very unattractive? |
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I have a question that I am sure many before me have asked but I will ask anyway--why is it that you always see Western men with Korean women but never Korean men with western women? It's not as of Western men in Korea are any more attractive than their female counterparts--in fact I would argue that they are less so!
It never fails to amuse me when I see the nerdiest western man strolling arm in arm with a gorgeous Korean woman. When such a man sees a western girl such as myself looking at the happy couple, he always seems to avoid eye contact and scurries away. Could it be because he knows that you know that there is no chance in hell that he would ever get a date with a beautiful woman at home?
This is not sour grapes-- I have a boyfriend back home--merely social commentary.
I swear. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 7:52 am Post subject: |
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For *beep*'s sakes. I usually avoid these types of threads but of late there's been a whole lot of charisma man type jabs. Of course, my girlfriend isn't beautiful at all so this might not be directed at me. . .
Anyway, I could get plenty fucked back home. If I avoid eye contact it's because the law of human behaviour says that a person staring slack-jawed at people they don't know is a freak. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:03 am Post subject: |
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first all that GIRL you see him with is NOT ALL THAT!
you see it might seem she is attractive and im sure all of us here would bang her.. BUT.. IN korean EYES she is not all that! remember korea has 50 million people swarming around and in seoul you will see MANY MANY girls around. so there is someone for everyone... BUT trust me take it from someone who has been here 8 years.. the so called beautiful girls you see with foriegn guys majority of them in Korean mens eyes are a 6!
I have been going to hongdae every weekend for 4 years and VERY rarely I will see a girl where I SAY OMG! she is a stunner! I mean rare like twice or 3 times a YEAR!!! A YEAR!!!
and in kangnam or APKU what ever its the same deal!
I mean I see 7-8 all the time! but a 9 or a 10! forget it..!
those girls you see with those LOSER DEAD BEAT ESLERS in most parts yes are too good for him but mostly she is just not that HOT!
and frankly korean woman are not STUNNERS! they are a average looking race! meaning you will see many 6-7 around.. but you want see 8-9-10 IMO!!
if we are talking objectively from VOGUE etc..
Foreign woman cream all over KOREAN woman when it comes to the 8-9-10s. and IM not talking AMerica!! there are other countries apart from English speaking countries ok!
when was the last time you saw a Korean super model?
when was the last time you saw a korean on a victoria secret catelog?
but hey.. people who are biten by the yellow fever.. they will bang anything asian! they are in heaven
and many average korean woman will date foreign guys for many different reasons!
it happens back home too!
remember in highschool why was it that the hot girls always went out with the DEAD BEAT heavy metal guys! or the jocks even tho they were not handsome?
becuase WOMAN are STUPID too!
beauty is in the eye of the beholder! |
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 9:23 am Post subject: |
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taegu girl
Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Location: California
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 10:48 am Post subject: |
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well, part of the reason is that there are far less foreign women (who are not prostitutes) than foreign men working in Korea. Sheer numbers factor
Also not all Western women are attracted to Korean men and vice versa. I can say this of Korean women and western men as well.
If you do see a korean man/western woman couple and they are serious there are not that many western women that want to spend the rest of their lives in korea. So, then that narrows down the choices.All the Korean men/western women couples that i am in contact with (including myself) have moved to the wife's home country. The husband instead of the wife has to be able to leave his country and his friends and possibly work a blue collar job in the States, Canada, etc. if he can't find a job in their field.Also just like some korean women have trouble with getting their families to accept their foreign boyfriend , the same can hold true with a korean man having a foreign girlfriend (i personally had a lot of problems with my FIL accepting me even though we dated over 2 1/2 years). |
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Cedar
Joined: 11 Mar 2003 Location: In front of my computer, again.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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This has all been stated above, but:
A lot of my western friends have always found Korean or Asian guys to be not so appealing. I can't figure that out, myself. I generally find them more attractive than white guys.
There aren't so many western women in this country to start with.
The Korean women with the Western ESL nerds? No, they aren't so hot. Though I have seen exceptions, the stereotype that geeks back home hook up with hotties here is not founded on fact. |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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there aren't that many foreign girls in korean/asia...
i hope by 'western' you mean, ppl from the west and not "white people".
besides the lack of girls, there are a number of girls that go to asia, hate asian guys/want to hook up with every white guy they see; thenget mad when the guys don't go for them.
also, some western girls find breaking into the krn dating society to hard, they don't wanna learn the culture, they can't accept cultural differences, they don't want to speak the local language etc etc.
of course, there are dogs regardless of where u go, but whatever~~  |
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shakuhachi

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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little mixed girl wrote: |
i hope by 'western' you mean, ppl from the west and not "white people". |
Why is that? Do Korean Americans face the same challenges in Korea as white people? If so your comment is valid, if not its politically correct drivel. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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shakuhachi, the op is nothing about the 'challenges' that white western woman face in Korea, and more about why Boudicca has such a hard time getting laid.
As for the op''s commentary on the dating scene in Korea, perhaps Korean women are less shallow than their western counterparts and look beyond what's on the outside, I'm not saying they are, just making a social commentary that's all.
Itaewonguy you still go to Hongdae every weekend? What do you do, drag your Korean wife and child along with you, or do you leave them at home while you enjoy the life of a single man? No offense intended I was just curious how a married guy in his 30's with a family can still go and party it up with the youngsters like it was 1984. |
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andrew

Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject: ..... |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Guys do get on these forums and say things like this an average of once a month.
Not saying I agree with the OP, I figure topics like this can only get ugly, but the OP was clearly a response to attitudes from previous threads. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Location: North Shore NZ
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Peppermint's right. The op probably got tired of wieners raving about how fat and ugly western woman are and how beautiful Koreans are.
I think everyone needs to take a step back, stop rating each other and let people do what they want with whom they choose.
As Itaewonguy said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I continually read on this board that most foreigners are freaks, who couldn't get laid or a job other than McDonalds back home. However interestingly enough everyone considers themselves the exception.
It's amazing how shallow and immature some posters are. By their own estimation they will be divorced from their husbands or wives (if they find someone perfect enough to marry that is) by the time they hit middle age because their partner will no longer be pert, trim or firm. |
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lunalilo

Joined: 11 May 2005 Location: somewhere in-between
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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It never fails to amuse me when I see the nerdiest western man strolling arm in arm with a gorgeous Korean woman. |
(Tongue in cheek)
That's because a lot of nerdy white boys who can't make it in the West go to Asia to become a so-called "educator;" ulterior motive being trying to score on unsuspecting Asian women. Why would you go to a foreign country if you have a steady relationship wiht someone you love and have a decent career prospective? I think it's these nerdy white boys who can't even have a steady relationship with Asian women who are regular at Dave's ESL forum constantly complaining about Korea and all things Korean. My impression from hanging around the forum for awhile, if you have a steady, stable relationship with an Asian woman, you have less things to complain about. Look at all the members who are married to a Korean woman, for some examples.
While, most White girls go to Asia for genuine reasons, financial, adventure, etc, not to score on Asian men. |
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Mashimaro

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: location, location
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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most of the korean girls I see with white guys are nothing special to look at. They may well be very nice people and good luck to them, but judging purely by looks they don't stand out. |
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Dylan

Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Boudicca Posted:
I have a question that I am sure many before me have asked but I will ask anyway--why is it that you always see Western men with Korean women but never Korean men with western women? It's not as of Western men in Korea are any more attractive than their female counterparts--in fact I would argue that they are less so!
It never fails to amuse me when I see the nerdiest western man strolling arm in arm with a gorgeous Korean woman. When such a man sees a western girl such as myself looking at the happy couple, he always seems to avoid eye contact and scurries away. Could it be because he knows that you know that there is no chance in hell that he would ever get a date with a beautiful woman at home?
This is not sour grapes-- I have a boyfriend back home--merely social commentary.
I swear.
Although I really dislike replying to this kind of crap, I just had to this time. Maybe it's because I've heard this same argument from other people so often that it's just gotten to be too much or perhaps its the fact that the people who advance this argument so often are the people who cannot seem to get a date here or have partners at home.
Not every western guy you see here in Korea is a nerd. It's nice for you to judge them on whether they look enough like _______ (insert your favourite male celebrity's name here) but let's face it, people are people and what you think makes a guy look like a nerd is something that another woman, whether she be Western, Asian or African, might think makes him look cute. Why should he be judged against a male celebrity and yet you, as a Western woman, should not be compared to anyone at all?
Now as for when you look at a mixed couple, did you ever think that they didn't actually go scurrying away but that maybe you just put that suffix onto their actions because that's what you wanted to see? You wanted to see a guilty man so when he didn't stare back at you, which if he's like me he wouldn't do not only because it's rude but also because he couldn't give a rat's behind what the hell you think, you decided that that meant he felt guilty or something which is nothing but conjecture. To be honest, when I walk down the street with my fiancee (who is Korean), I don't pay much attention to the people looking at us and if I do notice someone staring I simply continue with our conversation and let the idiot stare. If you can't understand a mixed race couple then that's your problem, not mine.
lunalilo wrote: That's because a lot of nerdy white boys who can't make it in the West go to Asia to become a so-called "educator;"
I don't know about everyone else but I came here not because I couldn't find a job in Canada but because I had a job I didn't like and had wanted to try out teaching in a way that would allow me to save money and also give me a taste of what teaching would be like. I also wanted to be adventurous and go traveling and see the world. I think it's unfair to put your own reasoning onto other people's decisions to come here. If a guy came here simply to hook up with a Korean woman, then loser he is but not all the guys here came here for that.
taegu girl wrote: If you do see a korean man/western woman couple and they are serious there are not that many western women that want to spend the rest of their lives in korea.
I just have to comment on this one by saying that this same consideration is taken into account by couples where it is a Western man and Korean woman. Why would you think that all Western men want to spend the rest of their lives here?
lunalilo wrote: My impression from hanging around the forum for awhile, if you have a steady, stable relationship with an Asian woman, you have less things to complain about.
I agree with this. I have had less and less contact with this board (and I only ever had rare contact) since I got serious with my fiancee and that's because most complaints I do have here I discuss with her, not on this board. And I think this applies as a general rule, not just specific to men dating Asian women here in Korea. If you have a solid, stable relationship then you don't need to be on here griping about how shallow Korean women are and how nerdy Western men are. Go out and get a life! |
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