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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: Bolton is a moron |
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A UN report confirms what we all know: attacking Iraq has only increased the amount of terrorism. US Ambassador John Bolton explained:
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US Ambassador John Bolton said it was natural that war would lead to more violence, citing as an example Japan�s World War II attack on Pearl Harbor and the US response.
"If you said after the attack on Pearl Harbor that the American response had increased the violence in the Pacific, you would be right, wouldn�t you? Because violence did increase after the attack and after our response," he told reporters. |
Now, wait. Japan attacked the USA and the USA attacked Japan back. 19 Saudis attacked the USA and the USA attacked Iraq. Hrm. Isn't this like the USA attacking China after Pearl Harbor? Sure those dastardly Chinese were on the verge of letting Japan use China as a base for operations blah blah....
What a moron. |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| i'm so embarrassed he's representing the USA |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Bolton is a moron |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
What a moron. |
Now come on. Are you with us or against us? |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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You should have heard him at his confirmation hearing!!!!! Idiot does not describe the man.
goes to show that nowadays, politics is run by Who you know, not what you know.......they just wanted a yes man in there....that's what they got, an empty vassel. Uncouth, unknowledgeable and ready to stomp the party line and destroy the U.N . from within. That's the agenda and those in the know, knew this from the beginning, based on his C.V.
Moron is a compliment for this guy.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Bolton is correct. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Because We Could
Thomas L. Friedman
New York Times Op-Ed Columnist
The failure of the Bush team to produce any weapons of mass destruction (W.M.D.'s) in Iraq is becoming a big, big story. But is it the real story we should be concerned with? No. It was the wrong issue before the war, and it's the wrong issue now.
Why? Because there were actually four reasons for this war: the real reason, the right reason, the moral reason and the stated reason.
The "real reason" for this war, which was never stated, was that after 9/11 America needed to hit someone in the Arab-Muslim world. Afghanistan wasn't enough because a terrorism bubble had built up over there � a bubble that posed a real threat to the open societies of the West and needed to be punctured. This terrorism bubble said that plowing airplanes into the World Trade Center was O.K., having Muslim preachers say it was O.K. was O.K., having state-run newspapers call people who did such things "martyrs" was O.K. and allowing Muslim charities to raise money for such "martyrs" was O.K. Not only was all this seen as O.K., there was a feeling among radical Muslims that suicide bombing would level the balance of power between the Arab world and the West, because we had gone soft and their activists were ready to die.
The only way to puncture that bubble was for American soldiers, men and women, to go into the heart of the Arab-Muslim world, house to house, and make clear that we are ready to kill, and to die, to prevent our open society from being undermined by this terrorism bubble. Smashing Saudi Arabia or Syria would have been fine. But we hit Saddam for one simple reason: because we could, and because he deserved it and because he was right in the heart of that world. And don't believe the nonsense that this had no effect. Every neighboring government � and 98 percent of terrorism is about what governments let happen � got the message. If you talk to U.S. soldiers in Iraq they will tell you this is what the war was about. |
and anyway the US was already at war with Iraq before 9-11. But if Saddam had given up his war then there would have been no war.
Anyone notice Khaddafy gave up his war -( more or less anyway) and now the US isn't going after him.
The US action in Iraq was not to conquer Iraq but to invade the middle east because after 9-11 the status quo there was a danger to the US.
And of course if mideast regimes killed off the supporters of Al Qaeda within their own countires well then there wouldn't be any Al Qaeda. Can mideast regimes find them? Sure they can. Mideast regimes have excellent security services. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Bolton is a moron |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
A UN report confirms what we all know: attacking Iraq has only increased the amount of terrorism. US Ambassador John Bolton explained:
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US Ambassador John Bolton said it was natural that war would lead to more violence, citing as an example Japan�s World War II attack on Pearl Harbor and the US response.
"If you said after the attack on Pearl Harbor that the American response had increased the violence in the Pacific, you would be right, wouldn�t you? Because violence did increase after the attack and after our response," he told reporters. |
Now, wait. Japan attacked the USA and the USA attacked Japan back. 19 Saudis attacked the USA and the USA attacked Iraq. Hrm. Isn't this like the USA attacking China after Pearl Harbor? Sure those dastardly Chinese were on the verge of letting Japan use China as a base for operations blah blah....
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I'm no fan of Bolton's, but your analogy is even worse than his.
You are trying to connect a state-sponsored conventional military action with the act of a non-governmental assymetrical attack. In other words, your analogy has also fallen into the deceptive (and subtle) quality of Bolton's anology.
Bolton would be right to simply say this, "Of course after 9-11 there is more violence, because the success of the strike was meant to display our vulnerability and recruit more terrorists in the Muslim world." He didn't say that, and instead made some convoluted analogy about WWII. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Bolton is a moron |
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[quote="mindmetoo"]A UN report confirms what we all know
anyone who starts a post with 'A UN report"
is likely a very sweet guy, unprepared for the fact that there exist on our planet people who want to kill their fellow people, including himself, for not surrendering his freedom of thought.....for which death is the penalty.
Go go United Nations..... (members include Saudi Arabia and North Korea.....what a source!!!) |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: |
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| Well, his music kinda sucks, but calling him a moron is pretty harsh (although, I must admit, it wasn't a praticularly bright idea to rip off the Isley Brothers' most famous song). |
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