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Roch
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 Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: Dear Canadian Ice Hockey Fans - R.E.: U.S. Ice Hockey |
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Who's the best U.S. born and trained player in your opinion? Why? Would this player have a chance of even being invited to try out for the Canadian National Team?
Thanks in advance.
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I_Am_Wrong
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| It's Brett Hall. |
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Smee
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm partial to goalies, so I like Mike Richter. During his prime he may have been invited, but 8 or 10 years ago you had guys like Roy and Brodeur, so I don't know how much ice time Richter would have gotten.
For skaters you'd have to include Brian Leetch, Jeremy Roenick, Mike Modano, and Chris Chelios. However, those players are either past their prime or retired. (But let's be fair . . . Team Canada isn't exactly going through a youth movement nowadays anyway.)
The best American player today? I don't know, I don't follow it close enough. Gionta, Gomez, Drury, I guess. (I think Drury's the best of those 3.) |
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Roch
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject: Brett Hall |
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Chuseok is boring thus far for me. Hope that you are having a good one.
Do you mean Brett Hull? If so, he's mostly Canadian in terms of his training.
Thanks for your input, and have a good day, eh.
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Roch
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject: Smee's Post |
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Smee:
I think that all of these guys would have been good enough in their prime to play for Canada's first line. (Controversial, eh?!)
Thanks in advance.
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Brett Hull played minor hockey in North Vancouver.
I dunno?
Pat LaFontaine?
Bill Guerin?
Doug Weight? |
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Roch
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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First, your reply stopped me from committing Hari-Kari with a butter knife that some kid here in Shinnae-Dong offered up as a solution to my frustrations, etc.
LaFontaine was, when healthy, a very good skater, puckhandler, and took the body as well as much heavier players.
Another point in his favour: He did not whine about Mike Milbury giving him a normal check nor a normal stick to the helmet from somebody else.
He also excelled on the Power Play when he was in charge of it because his very good snap shot and speedy legs often helped his teams get a goal.
Thanks.
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Glad to be of service. |
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niandralades
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| I'd say Pat Lafontaine was the best US player that I've been able to watch. There are a few good players that just never seemed to make it to the top of their games. Drury is now the most exciting US player in my opinion. |
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alkun
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:38 am Post subject: |
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I think you have to add Joe Mullen to that group. Small player but could score and pass. I still believe he has the highest point total of any American player.
As for defenceman, Chris Chelios would be a good pick too! |
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Roch
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:42 am Post subject: Chris Drury |
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| niandralades wrote: |
| I'd say Pat Lafontaine was the best US player that I've been able to watch. There are a few good players that just never seemed to make it to the top of their games. Drury is now the most exciting US player in my opinion. |
Drury was the winning pitcher at the Little League World Series when he was about 12 years old, too.
His high school team, Fairfield Preparatory School (Fairfield, Ct), was about as good as a mediocre Midget AAA team from Canada due to skaters as young as 14 on its roster.
One should agree that he's solid: He quick, plays like a Canadian, can control the puck, takes the body extremely well and can dish out punishment when called for, etc. All this in a guy who's, what, 5' 10" tall and 180 pounds.
Yeah, he's quite flashy for a guy who does not score all that often because it seems that his other attributes make him a very, very good player in the N.H.L.
Do you think that you'd choose Roenick in his prime over Drury? Please let me know what you think about this comparison.
Thanks for the feedback, and have a good Chuseok.
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Roch
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:57 am Post subject: Alkun's Post |
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| alkun wrote: |
I think you have to add Joe Mullen to that group. Small player but could score and pass. I still believe he has the highest point total of any American player.
As for defenceman, Chris Chelios would be a good pick too! |
Word!
Many hockey players and hockey enthusiasts seem to, usually, forget about this most unusual guy: He was born into a sort of poor area of New York City, played Roller Hockey, and still earned a spot on a team in the Metropolitan League in New York City.
Boston College is the most famous team in the Northeast U.S.A., and the College gave him a spot on its roster.
The guy excelled there and was supposed to play for the 1980 Miracle Team of mostly 20 year olds. But, he signed a contract with Salt Lake City of the I.H.L. and eventually made the St. Louis Blues.
By the way, his brother, Brian, was no slouch.
Thanks again, Hockey Fans!
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atlhockey
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| My pick among the non-dinosaurs would be Erik Cole. |
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Roch
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| niandralades wrote: |
| I'd say Pat Lafontaine was the best US player that I've been able to watch. There are a few good players that just never seemed to make it to the top of their games. Drury is now the most exciting US player in my opinion. |
What about Al IaFrate?
When this guy was on top of his game in the N.H.L., he was aptly referred to as Al "The Truck" IaFrate.
Some Canadians at U.P.E.I. and a few Scouts who played with and against him said this guy from Michigan was the best overall junior-aged guy they encountered in the O.H.L. - even when he was only 16.
Like the Canadian baseball great, Larry Walker, who did not play hardball until age 14 or so, Randolph, Massachusetts native Rod Langway had a very limited amount of exposure to ice hockey until he hit the very competitive E.C.A.C. at the University of New Hampshire.
He thrived there and then went to Halifax, N.S. where he made a huge name for himself with the Montreal farm club.
Needham, Massachusetts native Robbie Ftorek went up to Halifax to skate for their famous Juniour Atlantics in the late '60s. He was Wunderkind: He broke all sorts of scoring records. Later, he made the W.H.L. All Star Team and some N.H.L. clubs where he did quite alright for a slick-skating guy who was 5' 7" and only 170 pounds or so (sort of like Denis Savard, eh, but not nearly as talented).
Michael Modano, Jimmy Carson, Pat LaFontaine, Dustin Brown, Patrick O'Sullivan and a slew of others are guys who toughed it out when they turned 16 and went up to the ultra-competitive C.H.L. (Some others, such as Ftorek, Larry Pleau and Tom Rowe played what was then known as Junior 'A' before the Major Junior Leagues/Tier One - Western, Ontario, and Quebec Leagues - were even thought of, etc.).
One should wonder if many Canadians do not know that the Yanks have loved the awesome Windsor, N.S., game of hockey for over one hundred years.
As that Andrei fellow would have it, though: "That's a post for another time, eh, Rochie." |
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Alias
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