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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: long-timer blues Reply with quote

sorry for the long and self-indulgent nature of this post, but i just want to whinge a little and then maybe hear similar experiences of others.
i've been in korea almost three years now and until recently really enjoyed myself. i've made a lot of friends here, some very good ones too, and had a lot of interesting experiences i probably couldn't have had anywhere else in the world.

however, these days i feel i'm hitting a wall. i used to want to make a long-term life for myself here, starting a business, and so on. sadly though, i think i'm beginning to realise that no matter how hard i try, korea is not a club that will let me join. on the surface, korea is welcoming and friendly, but as i become more serious about life, i realise that it is virtually impossible to be 'at home' here. i used to ignore people who told me to go back to my f*cking country, or give me the evil eye on the subway, and so on, but these days it seems to be happening more than before.

i still like korea, but that is changing, and i'd like to ask some of the long-timers on here: what did you do when you felt like this? cut and run? soldier on? take a break? these days i'm saving up for graduate school (leaving next summer) so really i shouldn't change jobs/move anyway, but i don't know if i really want to stick around that long.

as i said i've had a good time up to now, and i'd hate to end up looking back on my korea experience in a negative way. i'm not really interested in having this thread turn into an anti-korea bitchfest either. i think a lot of people on this board revel in hating korea, and i'm not that kind of guy- i just want to hear some other experiences from you old hands about what you did when the rot started to set in for you...
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm at 3 and a half years... I'm preparing to leave so am using this time to network so I can land a good job when I go home. I suggest that you look at what your future aspirations are and then look at ways that you can start the ball rolling here in Korea. There are networks here, so why not use your time here to get into contact with people that you might not 'back home'
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i used to want to make a long-term life for myself here, starting a business, and so on. sadly though, i think i'm beginning to realise that no matter how hard i try, korea is not a club that will let me join.


Ding ding dang. Congradulalions for getting your head in the game.

I get through the day by having an exit plan. Sounds like you have one too but maybe you aren't so keen on yours. Mine keeps me fresh and rosey. Well, more or less.

You could always become a wh*re. Work anything and everything, and then leave. If you don't like it here, then deportation is a minimal penalty. And you might just earn yourself a nice little vacation before grad school.
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Yesanman



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: Chungnam

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After my first three years here (spent in Seoul) I felt the same as you are feeling now. What helped me to cope was moving out of Seoul. I moved to a small town in the countryside and it really helped me to enjoy myself again. Plus I got a car which did wonders too.
The countryside isn't for everyone so my advice would be to try to change your life. Find a way to do something new. Get a new job, new apartment. Shake your life up a bit, you're in a rut.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. Over ten years here and I still don't qualify for residency -- I'm still an indentured servant.

Bothers me at times but, on balance, I'm happy here.
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skdragon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been here 11 years in total. After 9 years I went back home to do grad work. Those few years doing grad work led me back here to do field work, and now I'm into year 11 here. Still yet to have the K family want to know about me, they don't even know my name (after 8 years). So I know how it can get. However ... knowing why I am here, and not elsewhere, is something that keeps me going. If you are hitting this wall at not even 3 years, you may not be in the right place, and going back to the grad work will help you to sort some things out as well as work out where you want to be and what you want to do from now on.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sometimes wish that I were a person who could plan for the future.

But I never could, and my life's arc has been plotted by decisions that I mostly made while imbibed on one thing or another.

Try, try not to fret. This really is not a bad place.
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skdragon wrote:
I've been here 11 years in total. After 9 years I went back home to do grad work. Those few years doing grad work led me back here to do field work, and now I'm into year 11 here. Still yet to have the K family want to know about me, they don't even know my name (after 8 years). So I know how it can get. However ... knowing why I am here, and not elsewhere, is something that keeps me going. If you are hitting this wall at not even 3 years, you may not be in the right place, and going back to the grad work will help you to sort some things out as well as work out where you want to be and what you want to do from now on.


what?? by 'k family', are you talking about in-laws? they don't know your name after 8 years?? please tell me i read that wrong.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobbyhanlon, at first I thought this was a "should I stay (indefinitely) or should I go?" thread, and I was gathering a few comments together. But it's not. If I understand your OP correctly, graduate school and your departure next summer are a given. So... all you're really asking is whether or not to stick around in Korea, a place you find yourself liking increasingly less, for the next nine months. I'd say leave now, but you mention that you're saving up for grad school, so I guess economics say stay and work. Okay, you're "hitting a wall" after three years, but so what? You're leaving in nine months, so don't sweat it too much.

BUT, if you were debating whether stay in Korea doing whatever you're doing and liking life less OR go home and earn a graduate degree, of course you do the latter. In fact, you should do that even if you're loving every minute of Korea and didn't want to leave.

endofthewor1d wrote:
skdragon wrote:
Still yet to have the K family want to know about me, they don't even know my name (after 8 years).


what?? by 'k family', are you talking about in-laws? they don't know your name after 8 years?? please tell me i read that wrong.

Maybe he means the "Great Korean Family". You know, like the taxi driver is your "uncle", the gas meter-reader lady is your "aunt", and your "gra-ma" is in front, behind and beside you on the bus. On every bus. And they don't know his name yet. (sadly, I think that's wrong)


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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People talk like they are sentenced to Korea.
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