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[freethought]

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2006/10/01/film-piracy-study.html


And I say it's their own damn fault...

When movies cost 12 bucks to go see and Deuce Bigilo 2 gets made, people ain't gonna flock to the big screens. Add to that the redick cost of food at theatres and it's driving people away.

The DVD industry is another perfect example. There's a reason that so many people are out there searching the web for torrents of their favourite shows and movies... When a box of three DVDs that costs a total of 4 dollars to produce costs a person 50 bucks to buy, you're not going to get a lot of customers.

My two cents, the article has the solution.... start selling DVDs for 5 bucks and they'll fly off the shelves. Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts may have to take a pay cut, but it will save hundreds if not thousands of jobs and may save the industry.

[happeningthang]

Well said Freethought . It's also interesting to consider just how this think tank came up with their figures. If they want to base their losses on the amount of movies downloaded then it's going to give skewed results. People will download and watch movies for free, but never consider going out and spending money on these same flicks.

Some of the crap that's made isn't fit for consumption ... if cinemas would allow people to walk out after 30mins of viewing, and receive a full refund, it would show some accountability for their product.

[diablo3]

Only a drop in the ocean for the americans

[Hollywoodaction]

Well, the number is quite misleading. If downloaders were faced with the choice of paying for most of the things they have downloaded or not watching the content, most would have chosen to go without. Charging 20$ for a legal download of a movie is insane. Most people who download do so because they want to save a trip to the video store. They should offer downloads at a reasonable price to entice these people to stick with legal downloads, but movie studios are simoly too greedy to sacrifice their DVD sales in order to adapt to the public's demands.

[Octavius Hite]

Right on Freethought, just like the mainstream music industry deserved the spanking they got the movie industry deserves it as well. I worked at a movie theater in Ottawa where the ticket price was 14.50$ That's insane. For a family to go out to the movies was as expensive as going to an NHL game. I hope they all get decimated.

[seoulshock]

Let's say the movie industry decided to prosecute someone who'd illegally downloaded dozens of movies, and gets fined in the process-- does he deserve it?

[happeningthang]

People are being fined...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4231973.stm

I don't believe that they deserve it, unless they're attempting to make a profit from doing so. It's hard to accept being fined for something that literally millions of other people are doing everyday. If you are fined you're, essentially, being stood over by a large industry lobby group who are using you as a unwilling particpant in a 'morality play' as part of a PR battle they can't win. There's no justice being served, it's an unproportioned attempt to punish those who are targetted by the RIAA/MIAA to scare the online community into submission. Consider that a hacker, attempting to scam money with internet viruses gets fined $2000 while the RIAA wants people to pay $750 per song in fines. One album will push that fine's total two or three times than the hacker's.

[matthews_world]

Don't forget to mention that the 20 bil eventually gets to the terrorists and communist dictators.

[freethought]

well, if they are making copies and then selling them for a profit they are inviolation of the warning that comes on/before every CD/DVD. Fines are necessary. That said, I think there are strict limits on who can be fined. I've been to Shanghai and I think every wei-guk in Korea has been to Yongsan. There are stalls, booths stands etc in both of those places. They are essentially sanctioned by the government. If the act is allowed to go on in the open, with government knowledge, than no fines can be levied.

I think the music industry is a good example. I don't go into CD/music stores anymore. I'll go in once every 8 months to see what's in the store, but that's it. I BUY almost all my music off of Itunes. 10 bucks an album for someone that I like enough to support, I have no problem with that. Same for a buck a song. Not problem with that at all.

But when season 2 of Laguna beach(no idea what then hell that is or if it's spelled correctly) goes for 40 bucks before taxes for a three disk set, that's nuts. A DVD is manufatured for about 4 cents. Fancy-assed packaging runs around a 1.20, and normal packing is 9 cents. Shipping varies. top price from manufaturing to the store shelves is maybe a buck 50, tops. Even if you factor in a crazy amount of advertizing, it shouldn't come close to 40 bucks.

People love to talk about market economics, and market forces and market economics are saying that the industry is out of whack.

[khyber]

Yeah...I imagine that the movie industry is TOTALLY being crippled by the losses.

Frankly, it is shocking to me why anyone goes to see any movie other than movie's they specifically are looking forward to.


How long will it take before movie stars actually take a cut in salary? Any guesses?

[Moldy Rutabaga]

[Zoobot]

I think the cinema experience should be a little cheaper and the food prices are just bananas, but I'm going to keep going, regardless. All that stuff about Hollywood being in trouble is hogwash. I just finished a Master's Degree last year, and my Research Project was on the cultural/political feedback loop between slasher films and Republican administrations. I did research on film revenues, and they have been rising for the last twenty or thirty years, with the occasional dip.

Let's face it, people are greedy. Why not cry wolf and say your industry is in trouble to grab even more money?

[Hollywoodaction]

[ddeubel]

57 channels and no one on.....

DD

[Gwangjuboy]