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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: 2 students, 1 aide killed in Amish Country |
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NICKEL MINES, Pa. - A milk-truck driver carrying two guns and a grudge stormed a one-room Amish schoolhouse Monday, sent the boys and adults outside, barricaded the doors with two-by-fours, and then opened fire on a dozen girls, killing three of them before committing suicide.
It was the nation's third deadly school shooting in less than a week, and it sent shock waves through Lancaster County's bucolic Amish country, a picturesque landscape of horse-drawn buggies, green pastures and neat-as-a-pin farms, where violent crime is virtually nonexistent.
Seven other victims were taken to hospitals. Most were badly wounded; most had been shot, execution-style, at point-blank range, after being lined up along the chalkboard, their feet bound with wire and plastic ties, authorities said.
"This is a horrendous, horrific incident for the Amish community. They're solid citizens in the community. They're good people. They don't deserve ... no one deserves this," State Police Commissioner Jeffrey B. Miller said.
The attack bore similarities to a deadly school shooting last week in Bailey, Colo., and authorities there raised the possibility that the Pennsylvania attack was a copycat crime.
The gunman, Charles Carl Roberts IV, a 31-year-old truck driver from the nearby town of Bart, was bent on killing young girls as a way of "acting out in revenge for something that happened 20 years ago," Miller said. Miller gave no details on what the grudge was.
Roberts was not Amish and apparently had nothing against the Amish community, Miller said. Instead, Miller said, he apparently picked the school because it was close by, there were girls there, and it had little or no security.
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Another eight survivors of the shooting -- all females -- were taken to hospitals and are in critical condition, state police said.
The gunman, identified as 32-year-old truck driver Charles Carl Roberts IV, killed himself inside the one-room school in Lancaster County this morning. Police said Roberts left rambling suicide notes with his family.
Roberts apparently targeted only girls, binding the victims -- between 6 and 15 years old -- before shooting them execution style, police said. |
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06275/726822-100.stm |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| 4th person just reported dead. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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It's just terrible.
What is with all these guys going into schools and killing kids and aides and principals these days?!!!
That's 5 incidents in the recent weeks which includes the Dawson College shooting in Montreal. I have to wonder if some of the publicity surrounding all of these shootings in schools encourage other nutcases  |
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bucheon bum
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| gotta be those bastard muslims. |
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ChuckECheese

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| gotta be those *beep* muslims. |
Yep! Only muslims like bucheon bum kill innocent people. Very smart. |
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happeningthang

Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| It's got to be the guns that every man and his dog can get hold of in the US. I don't know why you guys put up with it. |
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ChuckECheese

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| It's got to be the guns that every man and his dog can get hold of in the US. I don't know why you guys put up with it. |
First of all, dogs aren't allowed to own guns in the U.S.
Personally, I put up with it because our constitution allows it and I enjoy hunting.
It's not the guns' fault that crazy dudes kill innocent people. It's the fault of the crazy dude who pulled the trigger. |
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happeningthang

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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| It's got to be the guns that every man and his dog can get hold of in the US. I don't know why you guys put up with it. |
First of all, dogs aren't allowed to own guns in the U.S.
Personally, I put up with it because our constitution allows it and I enjoy hunting.
It's not the guns' fault that crazy dudes kill innocent people. It's the fault of the crazy dude who pulled the trigger. |
Quite obviously, but I'm going to suggest that crazy dudes would be a lot less efficient in their kill crazy rampages, if it meant having to chase down victims with a knife, or with anything other than a gun.
I dunno, I'd be willing to forgo shooting animals if it meant less people were getting killed...everyday.
Oh and...
Hup hum |
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cwemory

Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Location: Gunpo, Korea
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| canuckistan wrote: |
| That's 5 incidents in the recent weeks which includes the Dawson College shooting in Montreal. |
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| It's got to be the guns that every man and his dog can get hold of in the US. I don't know why you guys put up with it. |
If you have a map available, perhaps you'll notice that neither Dawson College nor Montreal are in the US.
Last time I checked anyway . |
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happeningthang

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| America.... Canada... same thing really. |
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Smee

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, some people will never see the connection between guns and violence.
Moreover, both guns and violence are such big parts of North American culture that I don't see either disappearing anytime soon.
People back home are very committed to hurting one another. |
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:02 am Post subject: media does not help |
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| I do not thuink the media helps--it plays and replays this stuff and the nuts get influenced |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
| ChuckECheese wrote: |
| happeningthang wrote: |
| It's got to be the guns that every man and his dog can get hold of in the US. I don't know why you guys put up with it. |
First of all, dogs aren't allowed to own guns in the U.S.
Personally, I put up with it because our constitution allows it and I enjoy hunting.
It's not the guns' fault that crazy dudes kill innocent people. It's the fault of the crazy dude who pulled the trigger. |
Quite obviously, but I'm going to suggest that crazy dudes would be a lot less efficient in their kill crazy rampages, if it meant having to chase down victims with a knife, or with anything other than a gun.
I dunno, I'd be willing to forgo shooting animals if it meant less people were getting killed...everyday.
Oh and...
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Very nice picture of your dog by the way.
For crazy dudes, it's much easier to kill massive and random number of people with knives than guns. Why? Because guns make LOUD noice. BANG! Good example of that is serial killers like Mr. Ted Bundy.
Also, if guns are carried and used in a right way, it makes perfect defensive weapon. If I were there at that school with my gun, that crazy dude would not have had chance. |
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