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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: pimsleur korean gold? |
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i have the basic 10 lessons and they are ok... the persistent usage of the "eemneeda" form is a little retarded, but they are helpful... has anyone else had experience with the more advanced lessons... are they worth buying?
i just bought an iRiver and have it tuned to korean lessons whenever i have a free moment... unfortunately i only have 4 lessons left to acquire... |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: where creditors can find me
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Uh, what in the who now?
Seriously, I understand that you're talking about learning from spoken korean, is it from the internet, and how much? Could you add some more info? |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I have the full set, 32 CD's, but have yet to use it - plan to start racking 'em off to my iPod this weekend. The cost was 200 USD. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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I considered buying a set of CDs but then took a look out my window ........................miles and miles of buildings, people, language. Thought I could buy a lot of beer and conversation instead. How I learnt a few other languages........
But hey , to each his own and whatever works. So long as at the end of the day you can tell someone to ......................
DD |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Just save yourself $200 and download them off a bittorrent site. Get Rosetta stone while you are at it. My friend has the full set of Korean, Mandarin, Japanese, Russian, Spanish, French, German and Italian. So, that's about $3,000 worth for free. |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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i usually use Shareaza, i don't know too much about p2p or what have you, how do i get on a bit torrent site... ? |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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inthewild
Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Location: Korea
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: |
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If anyone has actually found the 30 lesson version on a torrent site or anywhere else, please feel free to post it. I checked through 7 sites then got tired of looking... thanks.
I've studied a bit with the Spanish and Mandarin versions, found both pretty decent. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:08 am Post subject: |
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If you want good Mandarin lessons, go to Chinesepod.com. They are short, more natural lessons in Mandarin. Seriously, they rock. |
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chaz47

Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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inthewild wrote: |
If anyone has actually found the 30 lesson version on a torrent site or anywhere else, please feel free to post it. I checked through 7 sites then got tired of looking... thanks.
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ditto, many sites... nothing beyond the first 10 lessons... |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:07 am Post subject: |
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ajgeddes wrote: |
Just save yourself $200 and download them off a bittorrent site. Get Rosetta stone while you are at it. My friend has the full set of Korean, Mandarin, Japanese, Russian, Spanish, French, German and Italian. So, that's about $3,000 worth for free. |
Everyone's still looking big mouth. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Quiet in 'ere, innit? |
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seoulshock
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:12 am Post subject: |
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ajgeddes wrote: |
Just save yourself $200 and download them off a bittorrent site. Get Rosetta stone while you are at it. My friend has the full set of Korean, Mandarin, Japanese, Russian, Spanish, French, German and Italian. So, that's about $3,000 worth for free. |
Free? Not for me, because as an authorized Simon & Schuester / Pimsleur reseller, it's bad for business, especially in a business where we hardly make money off of each item sold, in addition to those who just burn the discs then return it for a refund.
Yeah... free, good for you. I applaud your integrity. |
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noguri

Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Location: korea
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:10 am Post subject: retarded repetition of verb form |
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Yes, I BOUGHT the Rosetta Stone Korean and I think it was worth it...
YES, it does have what the OP called the "retarded" repetition of the "inmida" verb form. If you look at reviews of the Rosetta Stone software on Amazon.com, you'll see the same complaint about Spanish, French, any language. In Spanish, they repeat the present progressive verb tense over and over again. "El hombre esta comiendo pan," and in fact Spanish speaking people hardly even use this verb tense.
I think Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone simplify the verb tense in an unrealistic way, but this allows the language learner to focus on OTHER aspects of syntax and sentence construction. You can learn the verb forms later on, from a textbook.
What I like about Rosetta is that I can SEE the hangul writing and I can click the mouse to REPEAT the sentence over and over again. I am married to a Korean and my in-laws are Korean but I haven't yet figured out how to make them repeat the same phrase over and over again until I can actually hear it distinctly and reproduce it with my own lips.
Same for having beers and conversation as ddeubel mentioned. Of COURSE this is the best way to learn a language but it helps if you have some of the rudiments down first.
I have a Korean textbook Elementary Korean by Ross King that gives clear and lucid descriptions of the Korean phonetic system ad nauseum...when is the consonant sound "released" and when not, depending on whether it is preceeded or followed by a consonant or a noun...I read that for sleepytime material. When I want to hear clear Korean phrases prounounced slowly enough for me to catch them, I break out the Rosetta. This familiarizes me with the pronunciation system much better than any textbook. |
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