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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:25 am Post subject: "We are in a state of civil war"- Sarkozy |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/05/wmuslims05.xml
Muslims are waging civil war against us, claims police union
By David Rennie, Europe Correspondent
(Filed: 05/10/2006)
Radical Muslims in France's housing estates are waging an undeclared "intifada" against the police, with violent clashes injuring an average of 14 officers each day.
As the interior ministry said that nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union declared that its members were "in a state of civil war" with Muslims in the most depressed "banlieue" estates which are heavily populated by unemployed youths of north African origin.
It said the situation was so grave that it had asked the government to provide police with armoured cars to protect officers in the estates, which are becoming no-go zones.
The number of attacks has risen by a third in two years. Police representatives told the newspaper Le Figaro that the "taboo" of attacking officers on patrol has been broken.
Instead, officers � especially those patrolling in pairs or small groups � faced attacks as soon as they tried to arrest locals.
Senior officers insisted that the problem was essentially criminal in nature, with crime bosses on the estates fighting back against tough tactics.
The interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, who is also the leading centre-Right candidate for the presidency, has sent heavily equipped units into areas with orders to regain control from drug smuggling gangs and other organised crime rings. Such aggressive raids were "disrupting the underground economy in the estates", one senior official told Le Figaro.
However, not all officers on the ground accept that essentially secular interpretation. Michel Thoomis, the secretary general of the hardline Action Police trade union, has written to Mr Sarkozy warning of an "intifada" on the estates and demanding that officers be given armoured cars in the most dangerous areas.
He said yesterday: "We are in a state of civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists. This is not a question of urban violence any more, it is an intifada, with stones and Molotov cocktails. You no longer see two or three youths confronting police, you see whole tower blocks emptying into the streets to set their 'comrades' free when they are arrested."
He added: "We need armoured vehicles and water cannon. They are the only things that can disperse crowds of hundreds of people who are trying to kill police and burn their vehicles."
However, Gerard Demarcq, of the largest police unions, Alliance, dismissed talk of an "intifada" as representing the views of only a minority.
Mr Demarcq said that the increased attacks on officers were proof that the policy of "retaking territory" from criminal gangs was working.
Mayors in the worst affected suburbs, which saw weeks of riots and car-burning a year ago, have expressed fears of a vicious circle, as attacks by locals lead the police to harden their tactics, further increasing resentment.
As if to prove that point, there were angry reactions in the western Paris suburb of Les Mureaux following dawn raids in search of youths who attacked a police unit on Sunday. The raids led to one arrest. They followed clashes on Sunday night when scores of youths attacked seven officers who had tried to arrest a man for not wearing his seat belt while driving. That driver refused to stop, and later rammed a police car trying to block his path.
The mayor of Les Mureaux, Francois Garay, criticised aggressive police tactics that afterwards left "the people on the ground to pick up the pieces".
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Atassi
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Location: 평택
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:33 am Post subject: |
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However, Gerard Demarcq, of the largest police unions, Alliance, dismissed talk of an "intifada" as representing the views of only a minority.
Mr Demarcq said that the increased attacks on officers were proof that the policy of "retaking territory" from criminal gangs was working.
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Thanks for putting in bold the part that you want everyone to believe... |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:56 am Post subject: |
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However, Gerard Demarcq, of the largest police unions, Alliance, dismissed talk of an "intifada" as representing the views of only a minority.
Mr Demarcq said that the increased attacks on officers were proof that the policy of "retaking territory" from criminal gangs was working.
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Thanks for putting in bold the part that you want everyone to believe... |
The media uses a lot of euphemistic and politically correct doublespeak to cover the truth nowadays. i'm sure someone as intelligent as yourself can see through the smokescreens.
The criminal gangs are 99% muslim, bound together by the same militant ideology that sees nothing wrong in attacking non muslims and tearing their adopted country to pieces. They are closing in on 25% of the French population and are sniffing a new islamic state around the corner.
Frances rapidly ageing population will be no match for them. They are taking over... and France faces a bloodbath in coming years unless they administer some strong medicine now. Its probably already an unstoppable process- given that 15% of the French security forces are now muslim as well.
France is the new Lebanon
Muslim blogs are calling for violence against the Jews, the whites and the well-to-do. They say, �We must burn France, as Hamas will burn Israel.� The growth of the Islamic population is explosive. According to some, one out of three babies born in France is now a Muslim. Around 70% of French prisoners are Muslims. Hundreds of Muslim ghettos are already de facto following sharia, not French law. Some have pointed out that the French military are not always squeamish, but there are estimates that 15% of the armed forces are already made up of Muslims, and rising. How effective can the army then be in upholding the French republic? At the same time, opinion polls show that the French are now officially the most anti-capitalist nation on earth. France has chosen Socialism and Islam. It will get both, and sink into a quagmire of its own making. Some believe France will quietly become a Muslim country, others believe in civil war in the near future:
The French Disease
Within 20 years, one person out of four in France will be Muslim, and almost certainly poor and angry. So the French disease progresses. It is chronic becoming terminal. On the way toward collapse, there will be no civil war, just moments of harsh violence. The population will change. People with a high level of productivity will choose exile. People with a low level of productivity will immigrate. Jews and Christians will leave. Muslims will arrive. |
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Atassi
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Location: 평택
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| i'm sure someone as intelligent as yourself can see through the smokescreens. |
Whose smoke screens am I supposed to see through?
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| Hundreds of Muslim ghettos are already de facto following sharia, not French law. |
Wow, fascinating crap you speak
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| Within 20 years, one person out of four in France will be Muslim, and almost certainly poor and angry. |
Poor and angry? So those two always go together? Thanks for the soothsayer's (sp?) prediction... |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: |
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However, not all officers on the ground accept that essentially secular interpretation. Michel Thoomis, the secretary general of the hardline Action Police trade union, has written to Mr Sarkozy warning of an "intifada" on the estates and demanding that officers be given armoured cars in the most dangerous areas.
He said yesterday: "We are in a state of civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists. This is not a question of urban violence any more, it is an intifada, with stones and Molotov *beep*. You no longer see two or three youths confronting police, you see whole tower blocks emptying into the streets to set their 'comrades' free when they are arrested."
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I don't quite see how Thoomis's statement, in the second paragraph, backs up the assertion that this violence is religious, as opposed to secular, in nature. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| Hundreds of Muslim ghettos are already de facto following sharia, not French law. |
Wow, fascinating crap you speak |
its fact already. I know, I've been there. Have you?
70.000 women are forced into marriage every year in France now. Whole areas are no go for women..abuse of women is increasing fast.
I know you're just trolling and playing devil's advocate. I don't really care either- France and Europe have been far too stupid and gullible, they almost deserve the insanity that they have pandered to for so long.
Here is some good reading ("reputable links"!! )for you that state the simple facts.
http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-text/france-immigration.html |
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