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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Americans in Canada Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061001/ts_nm/deserter_usa_dc_2

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"It feels good to be back in the United States," he said by cell phone in Ohio. "It's been a long time."


Every now and then my American internet friends intimate how ideal life in Canada must be and what can they do to move to a nation that out blues the bluest of the blue states.

I suggest they'd probably beg to go back to America after a year or two in Canada. It's nice to think you have the option to marry a same sex partner. It's probably comforting in a small way to know if you leave the house shirtless and braless, you're not going to be arrested. It's nice to watch a movie on Canadian TV and not have all the perfectly good swearing and nudity hacked out.

But I suspect people would all become like Garrison Keillor who moved to Denmark, claiming they did everything right there. That didn't last long. And Danes are considerably more attractive than Canadians.

I suspect when you're born in America, there would be a billion little things about Canada that would begin to get on your nerves. "You mean I don't have a choice between paper or plastic?" "You mean if I can't find a job in the New York of Canada then I can't just find the job in the Chicago or LA or Dallas or Houston or Atlanta or DC or Philly or Miami or Boston or Detroit or Seattle or Portland or San Francisco of Canada because there only is Toronto with Vancouver and Calgary being also rans?"


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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wtf man?

Your post doesn't relate in any way to the arcticle you posted. Talk about misleading.

I mean the reasons the article gives for the soldier wanting to leave is because he was bascally running from the law and could not recieve medical coverage or a work permit because of his status. It's hard to feel settled why your escaping something.

Why you gotta make this into a diss Canada post?


And Canada with its diverse population has much better looking girls than the Danes. Yeah Copenhagen is a beautiful cty, but give me the girls from Toronto or Montreal anyday of the week.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm all in favour of gay marriage: why shouldn't gays be miserable like everyone else?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
wtf man?

Your post doesn't relate in any way to the arcticle you posted. Talk about misleading.

I mean the reasons the article gives for the soldier wanting to leave is because he was bascally running from the law and could not recieve medical coverage or a work permit because of his status. It's hard to feel settled why your escaping something.


Indeed. However, there were quite a number of draft dodgers during Vietnam that went back to the USA when an amnesty was granted. American draft dodgers were certainly welcome in Canada and didn't have to hide. The article reminded me of that great wave of American immigration to Canada.
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Ya-ta Boy



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Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Canadian immigration statistics show that 20,000 to 30,000 draft eligible males came to Canada as immigrants in the Vietnam era; estimates of the total number of American citizens who moved to Canada due to their opposition to the war range from 50,000 to 125,000 [3]. This group may have helped to shift Canadian politics farther to the left of those in the United States.


This is a great wave?

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According the US census in 1910, there were only about 15,000 Cubans living in the country. In 1959, there were about 124,000 living the US, and after the communist revolution, another 250,000 immigrated. Currently, there are over a million Cubans in the US.

http://www.georgetown.edu/users/asc32/immigration.htm


I wonder what impact a million Cubans would have had on Canadian politics?
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sundubuman



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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Canadian immigration statistics show that 20,000 to 30,000 draft eligible males came to Canada as immigrants in the Vietnam era; estimates of the total number of American citizens who moved to Canada due to their opposition to the war range from 50,000 to 125,000 [3].



I'm wondering how many Canadians moved to the US during that same period.....I'm guessing it's greater...
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Wrench



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: Americans in Canada Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061001/ts_nm/deserter_usa_dc_2

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"It feels good to be back in the United States," he said by cell phone in Ohio. "It's been a long time."


Every now and then my American internet friends intimate how ideal life in Canada must be and what can they do to move to a nation that out blues the bluest of the blue states.

I suggest they'd probably beg to go back to America after a year or two in Canada. It's nice to think you have the option to marry a same sex partner. It's probably comforting in a small way to know if you leave the house shirtless and braless, you're not going to be arrested. It's nice to watch a movie on Canadian TV and not have all the perfectly good swearing and nudity hacked out.

But I suspect people would all become like Garrison Keillor who moved to Denmark, claiming they did ever right there. That didn't last long. And Danes are considerably more attractive than Canadians.

I suspect when you're born in America, there would be a billion little things about Canada that would begin to get on your nerves. "You mean I don't have a choice between paper or plastic?" "You mean if I can't find a job in the New York of Canada then I can't just find the job in the Chicago or LA or Dallas or Houston or Atlanta or DC or Philly or Miami or Boston or Detroit or Seattle or Portland or San Francisco of Canada because there only is Toronto with Vancouver and Calgary being also rans?"




Get of your high horse.
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Wrench



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: Americans in Canada Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061001/ts_nm/deserter_usa_dc_2

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"It feels good to be back in the United States," he said by cell phone in Ohio. "It's been a long time."


Every now and then my American internet friends intimate how ideal life in Canada must be and what can they do to move to a nation that out blues the bluest of the blue states.

I suggest they'd probably beg to go back to America after a year or two in Canada. It's nice to think you have the option to marry a same sex partner. It's probably comforting in a small way to know if you leave the house shirtless and braless, you're not going to be arrested. It's nice to watch a movie on Canadian TV and not have all the perfectly good swearing and nudity hacked out.

But I suspect people would all become like Garrison Keillor who moved to Denmark, claiming they did ever right there. That didn't last long. And Danes are considerably more attractive than Canadians.

I suspect when you're born in America, there would be a billion little things about Canada that would begin to get on your nerves. "You mean I don't have a choice between paper or plastic?" "You mean if I can't find a job in the New York of Canada then I can't just find the job in the Chicago or LA or Dallas or Houston or Atlanta or DC or Philly or Miami or Boston or Detroit or Seattle or Portland or San Francisco of Canada because there only is Toronto with Vancouver and Calgary being also rans?"




Get of your high horse.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: Americans in Canada Reply with quote

Wrench wrote:


Get of your high horse.


Off.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

I wonder what impact a million Cubans would have had on Canadian politics?


That's one thing I think Canada lacks: a vibrant latino presence. Mexican food in Toronto sucks really badly.

A 100,000 Americans in a nation of about 20 million would surely be a great wave.
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



this guy too should get off his....
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
endo wrote:
wtf man?

Your post doesn't relate in any way to the arcticle you posted. Talk about misleading.

I mean the reasons the article gives for the soldier wanting to leave is because he was bascally running from the law and could not recieve medical coverage or a work permit because of his status. It's hard to feel settled why your escaping something.


Indeed. However, there were quite a number of draft dodgers during Vietnam that went back to the USA when an amnesty was granted. American draft dodgers were certainly welcome in Canada and didn't have to hide. The article reminded me of that great wave of American immigration to Canada.



Yeah, the Vietnam dodgers didn't leave Canada because they hated it. They had roots in the States and it was where they grew up.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: Americans in Canada Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061001/ts_nm/deserter_usa_dc_2

Quote:
"It feels good to be back in the United States," he said by cell phone in Ohio. "It's been a long time."


Every now and then my American internet friends intimate how ideal life in Canada must be and what can they do to move to a nation that out blues the bluest of the blue states.

I suggest they'd probably beg to go back to America after a year or two in Canada. It's nice to think you have the option to marry a same sex partner. It's probably comforting in a small way to know if you leave the house shirtless and braless, you're not going to be arrested. It's nice to watch a movie on Canadian TV and not have all the perfectly good swearing and nudity hacked out.

But I suspect people would all become like Garrison Keillor who moved to Denmark, claiming they did everything right there. That didn't last long. And Danes are considerably more attractive than Canadians.

I suspect when you're born in America, there would be a billion little things about Canada that would begin to get on your nerves. "You mean I don't have a choice between paper or plastic?" "You mean if I can't find a job in the New York of Canada then I can't just find the job in the Chicago or LA or Dallas or Houston or Atlanta or DC or Philly or Miami or Boston or Detroit or Seattle or Portland or San Francisco of Canada because there only is Toronto with Vancouver and Calgary being also rans?"


Canada doesn't outblue the blue states. Try to educate/inform yoursel of current politics going on in Massachusetts, Wisconsin, and cities like San Francisco.

Anyways.. this is one of those posts from people who have no concept/reality of the blue states of the U.S. They just project the U.S. into all one large big red state.

Please do yourself a favor.. go to Boston or San Francisco or Ann Arbor or Portland or New York City or even some red state cities like Austin or New Orleans and get a real sense of the U.S. that some Canadians such as yourself appear ignorant and uninformed about.
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Hank Scorpio



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ann Arbor, MI

PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: Americans in Canada Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:

Please do yourself a favor.. go to Boston or San Francisco or Ann Arbor or Portland or New York City or even some red state cities like Austin or New Orleans and get a real sense of the U.S. that some Canadians such as yourself appear ignorant and uninformed about.


I've got news for you, I live about 10 miles outside of one of those places you've mentioned (Ann Arbor) and all of the cities you've mentioned are in no way, shape, or form indicative of what America is like.

They are small enclaves of the left in a vast sea of more conservative people. Now that doesn't mean that they're inconsequential, but they're hardly "the real America". America is a fairly conservative nation, and always has been in some profound ways.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! Hank is right!
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