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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Security Council, Preliminary Moves against North Korea... Reply with quote

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The U.N. Security Council voted unanimously Saturday [14 October 2006] to slap North Korea with trade, travel and other sanctions as punishment for its claimed nuclear weapons test...

North Korean Ambassador to the United Nations Pak Gil Yon said Pyongyang "totally rejects the unjustifiable resolution," calling it "coercive ... while neglecting the nuclear threat" he said was posed by the United States against his country...


http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/10/14/nkorea.sanctions/index.html
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gut reaction is to shut the whole country down, but I realize that is unacceptable to China and South Korea. This resolution looks like a measured and reasonable response, given the fear of toppling the regime.

I'm concerned about the stop and search section. It's vague enough to allow serious problems later.

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Rather than mandating stop and search operations, "the resolution will say to countries to inspect as necessary all goods going in and out of North Korea," CNN's Richard Roth reported.

The aim is to stop materials and technology that could be used for nuclear weapons production from going to or from North Korea.

In his remarks after the resolution's passage, Chinese Ambassador to the United Nations Wang Guangya urged restraint in carrying out the resolution's stop and search provisions.

He said that all parties must "avoid any acts that may cause escalation of tension" in the region.



A couple of years ago the US stopped a ship headed for Yemen (?) with Nork missiles. This article doesn't say how this policy has been changed. I'm hoping the resolution is more specific.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
My gut reaction is to shut the whole country down, but I realize that is unacceptable to China and South Korea. This resolution looks like a measured and reasonable response, given the fear of toppling the regime.

I'm concerned about the stop and search section. It's vague enough to allow serious problems later.

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Rather than mandating stop and search operations, "the resolution will say to countries to inspect as necessary all goods going in and out of North Korea," CNN's Richard Roth reported.

The aim is to stop materials and technology that could be used for nuclear weapons production from going to or from North Korea.

In his remarks after the resolution's passage, Chinese Ambassador to the United Nations Wang Guangya urged restraint in carrying out the resolution's stop and search provisions.

He said that all parties must "avoid any acts that may cause escalation of tension" in the region.



A couple of years ago the US stopped a ship headed for Yemen (?) with Nork missiles. This article doesn't say how this policy has been changed. I'm hoping the resolution is more specific.


I've no link nor any certainty on this, but I thought the previous policy was that shipments could be stopped, and that the major change with regards to shipment inspections is that each ship now must be stopped.

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jinju



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
My gut reaction is to shut the whole country down, but I realize that is unacceptable to China and South Korea. This resolution looks like a measured and reasonable response, given the fear of toppling the regime.

I'm concerned about the stop and search section. It's vague enough to allow serious problems later.

Quote:
Rather than mandating stop and search operations, "the resolution will say to countries to inspect as necessary all goods going in and out of North Korea," CNN's Richard Roth reported.

The aim is to stop materials and technology that could be used for nuclear weapons production from going to or from North Korea.

In his remarks after the resolution's passage, Chinese Ambassador to the United Nations Wang Guangya urged restraint in carrying out the resolution's stop and search provisions.

He said that all parties must "avoid any acts that may cause escalation of tension" in the region.



A couple of years ago the US stopped a ship headed for Yemen (?) with Nork missiles. This article doesn't say how this policy has been changed. I'm hoping the resolution is more specific.


I've no link nor any certainty on this, but I thought the previous policy was that shipments could be stopped, and that the major change with regards to shipment inspections is that each ship now must be stopped.

?


Where did you read this? There is nothing about each ship having to be stopped. China already said they wont stop ANY ships. Even Bolton said MOST inspections will be done in ports not on the high seas.
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NAVFC



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
My gut reaction is to shut the whole country down, but I realize that is unacceptable to China and South Korea. This resolution looks like a measured and reasonable response, given the fear of toppling the regime.

I'm concerned about the stop and search section. It's vague enough to allow serious problems later.

Quote:
Rather than mandating stop and search operations, "the resolution will say to countries to inspect as necessary all goods going in and out of North Korea," CNN's Richard Roth reported.

The aim is to stop materials and technology that could be used for nuclear weapons production from going to or from North Korea.

In his remarks after the resolution's passage, Chinese Ambassador to the United Nations Wang Guangya urged restraint in carrying out the resolution's stop and search provisions.

He said that all parties must "avoid any acts that may cause escalation of tension" in the region.



A couple of years ago the US stopped a ship headed for Yemen (?) with Nork missiles. This article doesn't say how this policy has been changed. I'm hoping the resolution is more specific.



We SHOULD topple the regime. After world war II, the world said "Never again" when they discovered hitlers concentration camps.
Now NK Is full of such camps, and brutalizes its people just as bad as the world stands by and does nothing.
In my mind, the time for North Korea's destruction has come.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rice statement and press conference transcript available on the eve (16 October 2006) of her trip to East Asia to try to settle things down and influence the situation...

SecState Rice wrote:
The purpose of my trip is to rally the support of our friends and allies in Northeast Asia for our comprehensive strategy.

First, we must strengthen our strategic relationships in the region...

Second, as North Korea scorns the international community, we will collectively isolate North Korea...

Third, we and our partners must expand defensive measures...the transfer of nuclear weapons or material by North Korea to any state or non-state entity would be considered a grave threat to the United States and we would hold North Korea accountable...

Finally, we must remind North Korea that a positive path remains open to it through the six-party talks...

QUESTION: ...are you planning any sort of measures that would involve the American military in the region or indeed the militaries of Japan or South Korea?

SECRETARY RICE: No...


http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2006/74047.htm
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