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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Jumped a korean abuser 2 day Reply with quote

So I was just chatting on my cellphone while getting a coffee from the machine....across from me there was a standoff ensuing, between a stocky guy about 25 and (presumably his g/f?) who was half his size and about 20.
He starts shouting at her and standing over her. She keeps looking down saying nothing. The tension is palpable. I ignore it, carry on with my convo. Seconds later I see she is slapping him. Ok, all well and good.

Out the corner of my eye I see a tense standoff. Then seconds later..*bang* he is hitting her. First punch to the face, then to the stomach.

WOW! totally unnaceptable...!I immediately shut my phone and run over and jump him from behind, my arm around his neck and arms, pulling him back. What the fu*k are you doing moron!!?? I shout. He strangely looks like a nice guy. Not the sort you'd expect to find attacking a woman.
The look of sheer surprise ( 20 people standing around doing absolutely nothing). How can you do that?? How can you hit a woman?? I yell in his face, pushing him back and pushing her away out the way. He looks bewildered. then.. "No,, no,...she..baby, bay" he mouths.. (WTF is he talking about)?? i shake my fist in his face.. but.. nobody is doing a thing..and I don't understand a word they're saying. For a second the dude's arms are at his side, he has a sucker target on his face and I am just acheing to give this guy a shot to the head.Then a woman (obviously a friend of both) pushes me away, explaining "baby, baby". However...plenty of people are now gathered round and I have visions of paying out my years savings to the guy and his fractured jaw. Are you crazy??!! I shout before being pulled off.


How a guy can openly punch a woman smaller than him...no matter how bad she's been.....and be protected by another woman..while being watched idly by a crowd..I'll never know. I'm just itching to put one of these dudes in hospital. Should I have taken his head off?? And if so, why should I if not a single Korean in the street would have done a damn thing to help?
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So...am I allowed to thump the guy? or will I end up in a Korean jail bowing and mouthing "kamsamida' for the next 20 years?..my life savings confiscated..rocking backwards and forwards apologising for rearranging the face of a Korean male?
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missg



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you ever get a proper explanation for why he was yelling at her and hitting her?

soap operas come to mind, but maybe she had an affair and is not pregnant with his best friend's baby? jk

cheers to you for standing up for her. regardless of her actions, there is no reason to beat a woman, especially in public.

how did everybody else react?
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got a real spotty track record for honesty on this board, starting with when you pretended to be a Korean woman for the first few days you were on it. But I'll assume it's true and say good on you. I don't mean to be a d*ck, but so many of these stories float around it's hard to trust them.

That said, I'll turn around and tell a similar story. Except the guy didn't outright hit her. He smashed her cell phone, smashed a bottle in front of her, and was being very scary. Nobody else was helping including all sorts of partying waygooks (this was in the club area) who were passing by. So me and my friend separated the happy couple, of course almost starting a fight. We send the guy one way and the girl another and stood there for a moment to make sure the guy didn't double back. And who do we see doubling back 30 seconds later?

The girl.

She was going back to chase the guy down and get another helping of abuse. It put a sick feeling in my stomach. Some people you just can't help.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="missg"]
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did you ever get a proper explanation for why he was yelling at her and hitting her?


Hard for me to do as my Korean doesn't extend that far...although "baby..she baby" has multiple inferences. The guy seemed sure he was doing the right thing, the other woman who was in on it seemed "responsible". It was as if some group family punishment was being meted out.

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how did everybody else react?


There were about 8 people in the immediate vicinity just idly watching and listening..sitting around. A few more people looking on from a distance. At Bucheon train station entrance...

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but so many of these stories float around it's hard to trust them.


I've heard a few stories about people being dragged to the cop shop for scuffling..or being made to pay big time compensation for any GBH. Thats about all..

In Australia or Europe..any guy hitting a woman on a public steet would be instantly attacked by the nearest man. Its just not something any westerner tolerates seeing.

I done this once before...on which occasion the woman ran back with the guy. Another time I saw an old ajosshi haranging a girl on the subway and felt like whacking him..but didn't as he wasn't actually touching her.

Any idea what happens if I hit the guy?

Anyhow...a woman being punched in the stomach is a bit too much to bear.
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missg



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GBH?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bravo! Bravo!

There is no excuse for that, cultural difference be damned.

It at the very least shows them what waygook WILL NOT tolerate.

And from my discussions with Korean adult students, domestic violence IS an issue they recognize, it's not something they consider a good thing.
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try puching a girl in public in New zealand and i guarantee at least 1 in 3 guys will be doing something to stop you.

On a related note, on night my brother and his wife and sister in law were all getting stoned at my bro's house. As they have a tendency to do, they got a little silly and started yelling and screaming. A couple of minutes later, the police turned up, knocked on the door, took my brother outside and handcuffed him and a female officer went into the house to check on the girls asking if they were ok etc.

God bless NZ really, you don't appreciate stuff like that until you come live in a place like korea.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I swear these guys should be forced to wear an Imperial Japanese uniform for a week and read a book about the rapes and abuses conducted against Korean women. When you force Koreans to start thinking and making connections...

I saw this couple one in a Starbucks and she was carrying on with the whole whiny "oppa!" thing and they were arguing a blue streak. At some point he kicked her chair. And then she was back to lovey dovey. I wondered if this was a bit of street theater put on for the benefit of a table of Korean Americans nearby. "Golly, we heard all the stories about the motherland but we didn't believe them until now!"

Sometimes when I see a BF/GF arguing in public and the guy is kind of using his body size to restrict her movements (but not actually hitting her), I just wonder if this is the theater of their relationship. He does this, she knows its his way of proving his love, etc. I'm not saying a guy hitting a woman is okay. But everything else just seems to me so much theater for their minds. When I see a couple having a knock down drag out and then like a switch are into snuggle bunny mode, it confirms for me much of this is simply their way.


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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Jumped a korean abuser 2 day Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
....... standoff ensuing, between a stocky guy about 25 and (presumably his g/f?) who was half his size and about 20.
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.... Seconds later I see she is slapping him.

..... Then seconds later..*bang* he is hitting her. First punch to the face, then to the stomach.

........ "No,, no,...she..baby, bay" he mouths.. (WTF is he talking about)??


I see this from a different view point... she had probably just told her bf that she was 2~3 months pregnant.... (because of him)... hence the looking down and slapping him....

then he does what most young, un-wed, korean guys do (too ashamed to let his family/friends know that he has impregnated his gf (without marriage etc)...

starts hitting her face and stomach in an attempt to induce a miscarriage...
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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starts hitting her face and stomach in an attempt to induce a miscarriage...

steady on, dude..
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
That said, I'll turn around and tell a similar story. Except the guy didn't outright hit her. He smashed her cell phone, smashed a bottle in front of her, and was being very scary. Nobody else was helping including all sorts of partying waygooks (this was in the club area) who were passing by. So me and my friend separated the happy couple, of course almost starting a fight. We send the guy one way and the girl another and stood there for a moment to make sure the guy didn't double back. And who do we see doubling back 30 seconds later?

The girl.

She was going back to chase the guy down and get another helping of abuse. It put a sick feeling in my stomach. Some people you just can't help.


I've never understood it, but some people like to be abused and mistreated. I even dated a girl who had been abused (big mistake, but I was too inexperience to know better), made a genuine attempt at understanding, and never could.
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rabbitsaregood



Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
So...am I allowed to thump the guy?


Well, no, because you did something about it without being violent, so it's not necessary. And ti's the violence that's wrong, legally and morally. It's just not OK to hit people, full stop.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was indeed a valiant effort and good of you to not have taken the guy�s head-off. If you did took the guys head-off, I�m sure the girl being beaten appreciates your effort, but at the end, guess who�s side she�ll be on at the police station? That�s right, her stupid bf.

For above reason, I should warn you guys (all of us waygooks) to stay out of Korean domestic affairs (violence). You will never win. It�s just lose-lose situation. Maybe that�s why all Koreans just stand and watch rather than getting involved��

If she was being mugged and raped, it would be different story. You would have every right to take his head-off and the girl will surely appreciate your action and love you forever. Wink
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tatu



Joined: 23 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to tell you this, but it's not your country. You will not change anything, mind your own business and stop trying to make people act the same as you. Do you honestly think that's the first and last time that guy and girl will take part in a cycle of abuse. We are nothing but foriegners, here as guests. You did nothing but make yourself look like an idiot, i think minding your own business is the best thing. We can't change how they think or act, it's not our place.
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