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A Haunting - Discovery Channel. Disturbing
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deadman



Joined: 27 May 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:48 pm    Post subject: A Haunting - Discovery Channel. Disturbing Reply with quote

Interesting, sure. I do want to know more about the connection between us on this plane of existence, and other entities that might influence us, good or bad. I've got no problem with the show itself.

What disturbs me about his show is the promos they run for it in the ad breaks of other shows, seemingly constantly at times.

I'm not one to jump up and say "It's satanic!" at every piece of non chrisitian pop culture, and haven't really felt this way about anything else on TV, but I do think they have crossed the line in this case. The promos flash lots of disturbing ghost imagery while intoning something like "Evil is real. Between the world we live in and blah blah there are doors, and behind those doors are nightmares!"

1. Repetition of TV images/words rewires the brain, as anyone in advertising will tell you.

2. Ghosts, evil spirits, satan etc are perculiar in that, if you think and believe thay don't exist, and they have no reality for you, it's no problem.
If you honestly believe they do exist, then, well, for you, they do, and many individuals have experienced demonic influence/possession that is to them real.

So: I'm concerned that these repetitious promos are rewiring peoples brains on a large scale in a way that is potentially detrimental to their spiritual health. I would certainly be concerned if I had children that were exposed to them repeatedly, at any rate.

Note: I'm not waying evil spirits are real, just that some people believe they are, and experience them as real, and these ads may incline more people to such a belief without their knowledge. I'm also making a distinction between TV shows, books etc which present information for analysis, and repetitive sound/image montages input directly into the brain.

Does anyone agree, or think otherwise?
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jinju



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, how'd you choose your nickname?

Ghosts are stories.
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red dog



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think kids should be exposed to TV without supervision. Too much inappropriate content.
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CabbageTownRoyals



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, I agree.
Sex and Death are topics of universal human interest. In western culture they are also taboo. The gratuitous sex and violence on display in print, film and television correlates to human experience almost as much as the appearance of models in ads correlates to the appearance of the average man or woman on the street; which is to say close to zero. We are usually encouraged to repress our questions and fears about both sex and death, often to the detriment of our mental health and personal relationships. Advertisers know this, and use it to manipulate us subconsciously. (Wilson Bryan Key).

Anyway, we can look around us in society at large, or the thousands of empirical studies that show the effects of the media on our behavior. Whether its toy advertising, smoking, alcohol or fashion, its inescapable and getting worse. The problem now is that we are coming to actually shape our personalities on what we absorb in the media. Heard of the Paris Hilton syndrome? Ugh.

Oh, in one interesting study a group of college students were shown an ad containing subliminal castration imagery. A high percentage of the men reported feeling fear after viewing it, without knowing why. Women had no such reaction.

I agree, mind over matter.

Slightly related, do you think video games have anything to do with all the school shootings in the States?
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is "rewire" a medical term?
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deadman



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
So, how'd you choose your nickname?


From the movie of the same name, actually.

CabbageTownRoyals wrote:
Slightly related, do you think video games have anything to do with all the school shootings in the States?


I read an excellent book which deals with that: "On Killing" by Lt Col David Grossman. Basically, on the subject of school shootings - video games that use joystick/keyboard, movies have no impact on increasing someone's likelihood of going on a shooting spree. Any video game that actually uses a replica gun to blast away at the game is conditioning them to be able to kill with a weapon.
Grossman argues that people have an instinctive aversion to killing/shooting other people. Looking at the history of the police services it was found at some point the the past that basically police were hesitating when they should have shot in the situation - this was overcome by realistic shooting ranges with realistic targets, also a technique introduced into the armed forces prior to the Vietnam War. Of course, the police firing range simulations which trained them to be able to instinctively fire at other human beings have very strict rules of engagement with strong penalties for , say, shooting a "civilian" target.
Video games that use a physical weapon replica train kids in the physical actions of aiming, acquiring a target and firing, without the negative penalties attached to shooting "non combatants", so it's a very significant enabling factor in these school shootings
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deadman



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
is "rewire" a medical term?


Nope, neither is "alter neural pathways".
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is "rewire" a medical term?
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
is "rewire" a medical term?




Nope, neither is "alter neural pathways"
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is "rewire" a medical term?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is that on on weekend evenings?

i'm into that.. but hardly get a chance to see it.

as to the OP question. I don't think its bad to see.. its not religious dogma. its basically unexplained phenemona. i'm inclined to believe (as most would) that our plane of existance is incredibly complex. I have no problem with any tv shows that challenges currect perceptions of reality - a reality of just meaningless nothingness going on most of the time.
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Hater Depot



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Ghosts are stories.


"You are a clever, man, friend John; you reason well, and your wit is bold; but you are too prejudiced. You do not let your eyes see and your ears hear, and that which is outside your daily life is not of account to you. Do you not think that there are things which you cannot understand, and yet which are; that some people see thing that others cannot? But there are things old and new which must be contemplate by men's eyes, because they know -- or think they know -- some things which other men have told them. Ah, it is the fault of our science that it wants to explain all; and if it explain not, then it says there is nothing to explain."
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jinju



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghosts dont exist.
Neither do any of you.
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deadman



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nothing to see here...

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deadman



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hater Depot wrote:

"You are a clever, man, friend John; ..."


Good quote. Where's it from, if you don't mind me asking?
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