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hack
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:01 am Post subject: What does this pm from Spinoza mean? |
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I don't think he likes Jews. What is even more disturbing is that he would have had to do some serious stalking to find out I that I practise Judaism.
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From: SPINOZA
To: hack
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:43 pm
Subject: Plastic Jew, plastic Yank! Quote message
Hey - do you like Slayer? What do you think of these lyrics? Pretty rockin', no?
Auschwitz, the meaning of pain
The way that I want you to die
Slow death, immense decay
Showers that cleanse you of your life
Forced in
Like cattle
You run
Stripped of
Your lifes worth
Human mice, for the angel of death
Four hundred thousand more to die
Angel of death
Monarch to the kingdom of the dead
Sadistic, surgeon of demise
Sadist of the noblest blood
Destroying, without mercy
To benefit the aryan race
Surgery, with no anesthesia
Fell the knife pierce you intensely
Inferior, no use to mankind
Strapped down screaming out to die
Angel of death
Monarch to the kingdom of the dead
Infamous butcher,
Angel of death
Pumped with fluid, inside your brain
Pressure in your skull begins pushing through your eyes
Burning flesh, drips away
Test of heat burns your skin, your mind starts to boil
Frigid cold, cracks your limbs
How long can you last
In this frozen water burial?
Sewn together, joining heads
Just a matter of time
til you rip yourselves apart
Millions laid out in their
Crowded tombs
Sickening ways to achieve
The holocaust
Seas of blood, bury life
Smell your death as it burns
Deep inside of you
Abacinate, eyes that bleed
Praying for the end of
Your wide awake nightmare
Wings of pain, reach out for you
His face of death staring down,
Your blood running cold
Injecting cells, dying eyes
Feeding on the screams of
The mutants hes creating
Pathetic harmless victims
Left to die
Rancid angel of death
Flying free
(leads: hanneman, king, hanneman, king, hanneman)
[ angel of death
Monarch to the kingdom of the dead
Infamous butcher,
Angel of death
Angel of death |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| Dunno, but I'm never going to trust someone wearing a Slayer T-shirt ever again. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
| Dunno, but I'm never going to trust someone wearing a Slayer T-shirt ever again. |
Duh! I just found out in this thread that they are bigotted racist pigs, but I knew they sucked hard looooooong ago... |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
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| Dunno, but I'm never going to trust someone wearing a Slayer T-shirt ever again. |
Duh! I just found out in this thread that they are bigotted racist pigs, but I knew they sucked hard looooooong ago... |
Who the hell listens to Slayer lyrics?? I just thought they were another black t-shirt band for Beavis and Butthead to wear. I didn't know they were evil nazi freaks! |
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cwemory
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
| happeningthang wrote: |
| Dunno, but I'm never going to trust someone wearing a Slayer T-shirt ever again. |
Duh! I just found out in this thread that they are bigotted racist pigs |
Same here. I always thought Pantera was bad, but the make Pantera look Dutch by comparison. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| I can't believe you would post a private message in a public forum. Shameless! |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
| Satori wrote: |
| happeningthang wrote: |
| Dunno, but I'm never going to trust someone wearing a Slayer T-shirt ever again. |
Duh! I just found out in this thread that they are bigotted racist pigs, but I knew they sucked hard looooooong ago... |
Who the hell listens to Slayer lyrics?? I just thought they were another black t-shirt band for Beavis and Butthead to wear. I didn't know they were evil nazi freaks! |
nazi, no. naziphiles maybe.
how can you take those lyrics and see them as glorifying mengele? at best, they're an ambiguous look at what it'd be like to be in a concentration camp - through the eyes of a metalhead.
jeff hanneman's dad was a US soldier and proud as a german-american to fight against the nazis.
peep the lyrics to "behind the crooked cross" - sounds like a nod to "hitler's willing executioners" to me, rather than bigoted drivel.
Time melts away in this living inferno,
Trapped by a cause that I once understood.
Feeling a sickness building inside of me,
Who will I really have to answer to.
March on through the rivers of red.
Souls drift, they fill the air.
Forced to fight, behind,
The crooked cross.
Do only what is expected of me,
With no emotions my feelings suppressed.
Blind obedience carries me through it all.
Conscience a word I learned to forget.
March on through the rivers of red.
Flesh burns, it fills the air. [sings: Souls drift, they fill...]
Forced to fight, behind,
The crooked cross.
LEAD: HANNEMAN, KING
KING, HANNEMAN
Time melts away in this living inferno,
Trapped by a cause that I once understood.
Blind obedience carries me through it all,
Do only what is expected of me.
March on through the rivers of red.
Souls drift, they fill the air.
Forced to fight, behind,
The crooked cross.
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hack
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| I can't believe you would post a private message in a public forum. Shameless! |
Oh OK so it's OK for this Jew hater to ridicule me and I'm supposed to suck it up? Go to hell!!! We did that 70 years ago but not now. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| Spinoza is a troll. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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People with Slayer t-shirts are generally cool, if misguided.
If you can beat out "Black magic" on a table, then you're a friend of mine.
if you think that slayer loves the nazis, you probably think that Swift really wanted to feed babies to English landlords, or that Qinella really couldn't understand the k-woman that left his apartment who checked out after him rejecting her advances.
satire. get it?
no? |
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cwemory
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| hack wrote: |
| Qinella wrote: |
| I can't believe you would post a private message in a public forum. Shameless! |
Oh OK so it's OK for this Jew hater to ridicule me and I'm supposed to suck it up? Go to hell!!! We did that 70 years ago but not now. |
Qinella's joking. Look at the link in his signature. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| Qinella wrote: |
| I can't believe you would post a private message in a public forum. Shameless! |
I don't think it's shameless. I think there HAS to be some background to this story that we're not aware of. I don't know who hack is, but this... (SPIN, I'm thinking and hoping you're about to clear this up.) But if I got a PM like that, I think I'd probably post it, too.
And WTF is "Plastic Jew" supposed to mean?
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| uberscheisse wrote: |
nazi, no. naziphiles maybe. |
Same difference. There is no neutral position on the Nazi's. If you're not against, you're pro.
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how can you take those lyrics and see them as glorifying mengele? at best, they're an ambiguous look at what it'd be like to be in a concentration camp - through the eyes of a metalhead.
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A few telling word choices show the intention here...
"The way that I want you to die"
"Sadist of the noblest blood"
"To benefit the aryan race"
"Inferior, no use to mankind"
That plus the intense focus on all the lurid details of the suffering. And the complete absence of any condemnatory tone at all. That is not satire at all. That is fascination... |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: |
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You must not be American.
Slayer are.
American satire is pretty dry.
You won't get it.
if you disagree, look at the 'speaker' of the song.
Now think of the word "protagonist."
usually means hero, doesn't it?
Everyone thinks that they're a hero. Saddam, bin Ladden, they think that they're heroes. everyone does. (most aren't)
at least in American jargon protagonist means hero, despite the efforts of Crane, Salinger, et. al.
Now think of the protagonist of the song(s).
is that any kind of a hero?
no. It's satire.
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
| uberscheisse wrote: |
nazi, no. naziphiles maybe. |
Same difference. There is no neutral position on the Nazi's. If you're not against, you're pro.
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how can you take those lyrics and see them as glorifying mengele? at best, they're an ambiguous look at what it'd be like to be in a concentration camp - through the eyes of a metalhead.
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A few telling word choices show the intention here...
"The way that I want you to die"
"Sadist of the noblest blood"
"To benefit the aryan race"
"Inferior, no use to mankind"
That plus the intense focus on all the lurid details of the suffering. And the complete absence of any condemnatory tone at all. That is not satire at all. That is fascination... |
how about this one...
"sadistic... surgeon of demise"
"destroying... without mercy... to benefit the aryan race"
"angel of death... monarch to the kingdom of the dead. infamous butcher, angel of death"
"Feeding on the screams of
The mutants hes creating
Pathetic harmless victims
Left to die
Rancid angel of death
Flying free"
if you think this paints mengele in a positive light, you're drunk or you can't read. |
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