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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: ...... Reply with quote
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http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/26/technology/intel_quad.reut/index.htm?postversion=2006092618
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: ...... Reply with quote
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Guess you jumpped on the core duo a bit too soon huh??

I can see a quad coming for me in the not too distant future !!! YeeHaa
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry CL, but you knew I was right when I wrote this:

Thunndarr wrote:
Delirium's Brother wrote:
I was reading on another board, that the general consensus is that multi-threaded games are about 2-3 years out. Just about the time that Cubanlord will be considering an upgrade to his system (i.e. the one he just built).


Ha! I bet he upgrades something by Christmas.


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Dodgy Al



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Seoul
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
"Only two types of computer there are: a prototype... and an obsolete"
yoda
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought that it was pretty much common knowledge that quadcores were coming out soon. In fact, the same week that CL was raving about his new system, there was another thread about quadcore chips.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry CL, but....

Laughing

Wink

Things are moving fast, but don't forget that your dual-core system will still rock very hard for a long time. Even against the quad cores for the first year, your setup will keep pace. Any differences will be like 120FPS vs. 245....
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Demophobe wrote:
like 120FPS vs. 245....


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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, it looks bad, mate, but it's actually meaningless at either of those framerates.

Funny that coding for dual-core is still in the infancy stage, yet quad-core is on the doorstep.

Anyways, I can't help but feeling that quad-core is a load of bunk. It will mean something later, but unless they come up with a new idea about parallelism (how to combat potential problems, existing problems), they will continue to try to make us believe that a quad-core setup is better than a single CPU @ 8GHz. Why? Because parallelism is relatively cheap, whereas the R&D necessary to make a functional CPU at a very high clock would be expensive.

They (Intel, AMD) are getting lazy. They may claim to have hit the wall on issues (heat, power), but they are simply saving money on R&D, or at least letting us foot any bills that are arising as a result of the work by buying into their multi-core "solutions".

The makers continue to obscure the issue by flashing the big numbers. Of course a quad-core CPU array will push out huge amounts of data, but still not as much, cycle for cycle, as a single-core CPU. Think efficiency. However they get the CPUs to work together, there will always be a loss. I truly believe that we are seeing the limits of silicon (in it's current state), and until ta new substrate is found, they will continue to lump CPUs together and we will continue to "OOOoooo" at the numbers.

Honestly, I won't be looking into that anytime soon, and it's not about a lack of funds.

Get it together Intel and AMD.

What an empty rant. So many good discussion topics glossed over in a few pithy sentences. Ah well...you get my jist. We are being played.
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Delirium's Brother



Joined: 08 May 2006
Location: Out in that field with Rumi, waiting for you to join us!
PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Demophobe wrote:
Funny that coding for dual-core is still in the infancy stage, yet quad-core is on the doorstep.

Sad, would have been my choice of words, actually.

Demophobe wrote:
Anyways, I can't help but feeling that quad-core is a load of bunk. It will mean something later, but unless they come up with a new idea about parallelism (how to combat potential problems, existing problems), they will continue to try to make us believe that a quad-core setup is better than a single CPU @ 8GHz. Why? Because parallelism is relatively cheap, whereas the R&D necessary to make a functional CPU at a very high clock would be expensive.

Argeed, you could add I/O hardware/technology/bandwidth to the list of problems with multi-core designs. Nobody has even come close to keeping all those cores fed properly. Most desktop setups can't even stress out a dual-core setup. Maybe some juiced-up power-gam